Talk:Oscar van Dillen

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Now that references have been added to clearly establish notability, the reflist takes up more space than the actual bio! The refs can even be used to expand this article into a Good Article candidate, I suspect, if used thoughtfully. --Jubilee♫clipman 00:27, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Golden Calf

The Golden Calf (Gouden Kalf) nomination may have been for the entire team behind the project without mentioning Oscar van Dillen by name. The claim still need to be verified, anyway. Do we really need it? --Jubilee♫clipman 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I have removed both nominations. They aren't all that important. gidonb (talk) 16:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

reliable sources.

This artikel of van Dillen (a living person) does not include any reliable reference or solid source. For instance, the link of the Rotterdamse School (9)is to privat website! And there are only a few Google results and most of them are Wikipedia related. Graaf Statler (talk) 20:39, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Recently you twice added a template above the article so the reader would see a box containing the text: ".. This biography of a living person does not include any references or sources. .." Other wikipedians removed that template because there were quite a lot of references and sources. So it looks like you repeatedly added a false claim. Can you explain why you really thought the article didn't include any references or sources? - Robotje (talk) 22:32, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Because the template is confusing me.

This biography of a living person does not include any references or sources. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately.

It is confusing. The article does not include any reference or sources. Yes, you are right. But the sources are absolute not reliable. The template is inconsequent. That is my/the problem. Graaf Statler (talk) 23:30, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Why are the sources absolute not reliable? For example, what is wrong with nr. 19 ("Eine Sinfonie der modernen Großstadt". klassik.com)? - Robotje (talk) 08:42, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

That sources is reliable. But the only thing is that we know that some CD exists. In Dutch we say: De vlag dekt de lading niet. In fact, the whole article is an empty shell. If you read careful the sources there is not much left. Van Dillen is teaches World music composition as well as music theory in the jazz, pop and world music department at the Conservatory of Rotterdam and he was the first chairperson of the Dutch chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. He did some small projects and there are some CD's. But the label is unknown. And once in a while a work of him was played. That is the whole article and the rest is unsouced air. But what he made is briljant, absolutely. Graaf Statler (talk) 09:06, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

So you first write the ".. the sources are absolute not reliable." (underscore by Robotje) and for the first example I gave, you state now it is reliable instead of absolute unreliable. The template is not confusing, maybe you are confused. - Robotje (talk) 09:58, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, I am confused by that template. But in fackt this whole discussion is a no-discusion. Of cource you can write an articel about van Dillen. Why not? But you must use only the infomation you can check in reliable sourses. And then you have a very, very short articel left. Graaf Statler (talk) 10:35, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

The template is not confusing. It should only be used for biographies of living people if there are really no references/sources at all. In this case you later admitted there were sources. Then you came up with the issue that the sources were absolute not reliable which turned out to be incorrect also. So, you should have never used that template . Please also undo this edit because it was based on your false statement. And why did you write "But the label is unknown." In the 'Recordings' section of the article the third item has a link to the Wikipedia article Etcetera Records. From now on please better check the facts before you change an article or write in a discussion like this to avoid making all those false statements. - Robotje (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes, a world famous label. One of the biggest. You know, my dear Robotje, I am not so interested in Wikipedia. I prefere Wikisage. And I found out we still don't have a artikel ""Jimmy Wales"" on Wikisage. Yes, I will write that. And, the canary of ant Nel escaped again, so I have other problems and no time for Wikipedia. See you, bye bye! And stop twisting my words around! Graaf Statler (talk) 13:03, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia?

This article's prose does not mention Wikipedia. Should the Wikipedia category be included? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 06:54, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

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