Talk:Operation Juniper Shield
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Skepticism about operations in southern Libya (infobox)
editIf military operations are being conducted in southern Libya, why is Libya not mentioned as a combatant, why are no Libyan personnel listed? Where do these figures come from, are they in fact figures from Operation Flintlock 2005, which was only a training exercise that didn't include Libya? Suggest delete Infobox if no citations are forthcoming in the next couple of weeks. Rexparry sydney 01:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
US Casuality ?
editAny details redarding the special force operator who is been killed in Mali ?--Max Mayr 15:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
At http://mali.usembassy.gov/death_of_eucom_soldier.html i see something about a us soldier being killed in mali accidentaly. Also i found regarding troop #'s http://fe29.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_re_af/mali_us_attack which states that there are only a few dozen us troops in mali, but idk anything about troops in other saharan countries. XavierGreen 23 September 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 22:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
US viewpoint
editThere have been a number of conflicts in this area for a while. Choosing to bunch these conflicts together and name them acccording to some US army budget category seems a bit POV. Should this be merged with the pages covering the actual conflicts.
If these are really parts of a unified Al Qaida campaign in North Africa then it would make more sense to use their name for it (whatever that is) - The US operation being a response to that. filceolaire (talk) 06:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Original research casualty figures removed
editI've just removed from the infobox casualty figures added by an IP editor from adding up reports in news stories. Such totals are invariably totally wrong, and it's unclear what the inclusion/exclusion criteria used here are: 'Operation Enduring Freedom – Trans Sahara' is mainly a US training mission, yet the casualty figures were for terrorist attacks and skirmishes all over the place. Nick-D (talk) 03:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your view. After all, the security casualties are certainly inaccurate. However, the mission does explicitly call for counter-terror efforts (AKA: military action), and the US has taken action, such as the arrest of Oumar Issa. Furthermore, I put a great deal of time and effort to ensure that there are no duplicate or left out reports of insurgent casualties between late 2007 and the present. I won't restore the insurgent and American casualties yet, but I hope we can reach an agreement. 50.129.89.173 (talk) 02:04, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- The only US casualties i'm aware of related to OEF-TS are a special forces operator who died of exhaustion in mali and a C-130 that was damaged by tuerag rebels a few years back (which is the only offically reported hostile contact in OEF-TS as well).XavierGreen (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, my basic concern is that this article is confusing a US military operation which is focused on training and advice with a wider war, which probably isn't a single conflict anyway. Nick-D (talk) 23:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Although the US itself may not engage in combat, the president's budget [1] claims that the US provides information to partnership countries that leads to counter terror operations. Therefore, these security operations would fall under this operation. 50.129.89.173 (talk) 11:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Please find reliable sources that specifically attribute the casualties to 'Operation Enduring Freedom – Trans Sahara' or similar. Until then, it's just your interpretation, and I have to say that it's a highly questionable view. Nick-D (talk) 07:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Although the US itself may not engage in combat, the president's budget [1] claims that the US provides information to partnership countries that leads to counter terror operations. Therefore, these security operations would fall under this operation. 50.129.89.173 (talk) 11:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, my basic concern is that this article is confusing a US military operation which is focused on training and advice with a wider war, which probably isn't a single conflict anyway. Nick-D (talk) 23:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- The only US casualties i'm aware of related to OEF-TS are a special forces operator who died of exhaustion in mali and a C-130 that was damaged by tuerag rebels a few years back (which is the only offically reported hostile contact in OEF-TS as well).XavierGreen (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Mali
editSince the war in Mali is part of the War on Terror, and Mali (at least northeastern Mali, where the fighting is taking place) is located in the Trans Sahara region, shouldn't this article have some info about that? Does anyone know if the French operation in Mali is considered part of Operation Enduring Freedom? (According to this article, the French are/were involved in Op Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara, at least sometime in the past.) The US is supporting the French mission by transporting French personnel and equipment, and possibly even sending/using drone aircraft. This article should be updated accordingly. Thank you--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 19:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)