Talk:Ninon de l'Enclos

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Saw in a comment on a blog this attributed to her:

“I tell you on behalf of women: there is not one of us who does not prefer a little rough handling to too much consideration. Men lose through blundering more hearts than virtue saves. The more timidity a lover shows with us the more it concerns our pride to goad him on; the more respect he has for our resistance, the more respect we demand of him. We would willingly say to you men: “Ah in pity’s name do not suppose us to be so very virtuous, you are forcing us to have too much of it…”"

I can not find her on wikiquote, can anyone confirm if it rings a bell? I am wondering if legit if this should be used as evidence for describing attitudes. Ranze (talk) 09:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

What year was she born?

The article says 1620. One of its references, the New Int'l Encyclopedia, says 1616. Another reference, the book reproduced at aelliott.com, says 1615. --Tbanderson (talk) 18:04, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

@Tbanderson: Good question. The 1761 Memoirs of Ninon de L'Enclos, says she was born on the ides of May, 1616 while the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica says November 1615. But most sources seem to indicate it was either 1620 or 1623. The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy says November 10, 1620. The Encyclopedia of Continental Women Writers says "January 9, 1623 (?)" and that she was born in either November 1620 or January 9, 1623. According to William L. Chew III, who wrote her entry in Women in World History: "Born Anne de Lanclos on January 9, 1623, in Paris, France (some sources erroneously cite November 11, 1620)". Project Continua's entry also has January 9, 1623, sourced to Roger Duchêne, Ninon de Lenclos, la courtisane du Grand Siècle, (Paris: Fayard, 1984), 18-19. gobonobo ^{+ c} 20:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)