Talk:Nightcore

Can it be even more confusing?

After reading the article, I still don't understand if Nightcore is a producer duo or the name for a music genre. Why is the term "nightcore edit" used instead of calling it a genre, if it is one? What's the difference between this and Happy Hardcore? How can a producer in 2009 claim to be the first one to make this kind of music, when Happy Hardcore exists since the early 90s and could be made with "reasonably simple audio software" as well? This article is really poorly written.

Nightcore is a duo whose style spawned a genre (also called Nightcore) which is named after them. I think a separate article called Nightcore (genre) should be started to discuss the genre with references pointing to this page in the section about its origins.

1.127.105.67 (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks EditorE for the effort and made this article not being speed deleted like the 5 attempts before. I have tried once myself, failed then moved KnowYourMeme (and wikia to a much less extend). It is good to see a foundation to build upon. I have moved the article from wikidata:25395042 to wikidata:Q3876770 as it is more established. --HKO2006 (talk) 08:09, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit summaries. Removed NXC due to it's not widely used. Removed the BPM part in summary, as the 'expanded definition' goes, it's has nothing to do with BPM now. Changed Finnmak based producer to Norwegian DJ duo due to Finnmak is not used in Nigthcore's site other than the original site while Norway is used when they state where they are based. Moved trance before eurodance as it's the main style Nigthcore used. Changed maikel6311 to Maikel631 Maikel631 is the user ID, while Maikel6311 is the new YouTube channel ID after the one before (Maikel631) was suspended. --HKO2006 (talk) 11:27, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Alvin and the Chipmunks in the "See also section" is probably a bad joke by someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.93.211.91 (talk) 11:23, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

tbf, nightcore itself is hardly more than a joke by someone. My generation saw the same thing, but we called it Smurf-versions. And slightly before that Alvin and the Chipmunks did it. And before THAT, people just toggled their recordplayer to the wrong setting for a bit of a giggle. Just, for some weird reason, recently people are listening to it unironically. If taking someone else's (hard) work and changing the tempo slider seems impressive to some, that's okay, I guess. But don't be surprised when people occasionaly point out that it's mostly a meme rather than actually music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.211.83.160 (talk) 13:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

At worst, it's a good joke. More accurately, it's a good point. 2.103.211.132 (talk) 11:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Speed up and pitch up

The text seems to imply the increase in BPM and pitch up are two different aspects of "nightcore" remixes. Speeding up a track will naturally increase its frequency.

It's literally the same operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.46.244.134 (talk) 05:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

• Actually, in some speed and pitch shifting features of programs, the speed increases but the pitch stays the same and vice verse, so this clarification is necessary editorEهեইдအ😎 18:56, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

they can & often are done as separate operations, but most of the "creators" who undertake this "work" on someone else's records aren't aware of these subtleties & prefer the simple effect of speeding the whole thing up, per its origins in 33 vs 45 rpm vinyl.

let's not mention, then, that john peel used to do this a lot by accident during his BBC radio show, & was famous for it, nor shall we mention, for fear of offending the OR police, the 'neu!' album that employed this technique way back in 1973, to fill their album up when they ran out of songs. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Neu!_2

duncanrmi (talk) 11:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

"Confusing Wording" wtf

OK. Whoever tagged the article as having "Confusing wording" needs to explained further about this because I'm not seeing it editorEهեইдအ😎 18:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

This needs cutting right down

A genre that consists of "take a track, speed it up by 25%" does not need this amount of pretentious twaddle written about it. Nothing is being created, nothing is being made. It's about as creative as switching a turntable from 33 to 45. It's pure Emperors new clothes made into a real genre by people too lazy or incompetent to make or even remix music.

I mean for pities sake it says "Nightcore is characterized by a sped-up melody (sometimes), fast rhythmic beat (usually), and higher than normal pitch. " - No, nightcore is "characterized" by whatever was in the track they decided to speed up. Nothing new is being created for it to be 'characterized" by anything. I mean this article talks about some people putting this music over rollercoaster footage as some sort of innovation. Get real.

Also the second half of the article seems to be a mixture of nightcore (as in speeding stuff up) and original music that sounds a bit like it's been sped-up. Mainly because you can't release nightcore as..yknow...it's not your music to release. It's 100% someone else's work.

Also most of the article is copy-pasted from here http://nesthq.com/nightcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.93.254 (talk) 22:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm trying to cut this down on unsourced or otherwise weird statements. I removed the rollercoaster thing because it's arguably self-promotion; the source for it is an article (Nest HQ) written by one of the 'Coaster Crew' members. RoseCherry64 (talk) 20:46, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5dd0:60a0:eca8:8863:c70d:c14c (talk) 23:44, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Caramelldansen

Should it be mentioned? —ajf (talk) 11:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ajfweb Yes. Its prob the first nightcore song (i didint read the article much so fix my mistakes). Wikil0ll3a (talk) 17:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah it should be, That was the main one that started this off massively, we used to call them Speedycake remixes back in the 00s, nightcore was just a producer but that name took off better than Speedycake Remixes. 2A00:23C5:240E:7D01:D1D0:D25D:366C:766E (talk) 21:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Evanescence

Absolutely no way is anything about no-one making Nightcore of any other genre of music until all the way into 2011 true at all, this is a genre that was born from filesharing services such as KaZaA and Limewire and websites such as Youtube, the entire premise of the genre revolves around speeding up music and applying Magic EQ settings 7 times, I remember on Youtube we used to do parodies of Nightcore in the late 00s, One of my friends did a nightcore version of a Nirvana song as a joke in 2007 and titled it "Speedycake Remixes are dumb", I did one of The Berzerker. His channel amoung many more have been taken down due to copyright strikes, there was also 'Bumzur - This is huh...wow' from 2008 which is esentially Burzum Nightcore, this article just seems like retconned nonsence, the vast majority of this article seems redundant to me. It was mainly just people wanting to make happy hardcore-esque music but not having the talent.2A00:23C5:240E:7D01:D1D0:D25D:366C:766E (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

source for 33-45rpm speed difference?

it's a bit weird that the specific speed difference that corresponds to a record player's speed being switched is mentioned but never given a source? what would dictate that *that* be the nightcore speed difference? 2601:5C8:C280:13F0:BD29:A256:A450:4D23 (talk) 02:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)