Talk:Nestorian schism

Requested move 12 June 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Nestorian schism. (closed by non-admin page mover) _signed, Iflaq ^(talk) 10:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

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Nestorian Schism → Nestorian schism – Not generally capitalized in reliable sources, per MOS:CAPS (t · c) buidhe 05:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

• See Google Scholar results[1], NGRAMS[2] (t · c) buidhe 05:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Srnec (talk) 03:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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Was there a 'schism'?

Did a 'schism' as such ever actually happen? The Church of the East already thought of itself as a separate church to the one in the Roman Empire from at least 410, and the School of Nisibis wasn't shut down until 489. We don't actually have any evidence in the article that Ephesus I caused a discrete event wherein the two churches separated. The only source in the article, although taken from a compendium published in 2002, must be from the early 20th century given its author's dates, and is therefore seriously outdated. 131.111.5.135 (talk) 14:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

To add: chapter 5 of Philip Wood's The Chronicle of Seert (Oxford: OUP, 2013) is an excellent treatment of the issues involved here, and shows how both the Church of the East and Miaphysite sources only later came to retroject onto their own histories the idea of a fifth-century schism over Nestorius that hadn't really happened. 131.111.5.135 (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)