Talk:Nelson Monument, Edinburgh

Time Ball still in operation?

Is the time ball still in operation. When in Edinburgh recently I did not observe it when I watched the tower at 1pm BST. WP:OR I think that the view from the top of the monument is the best view in Edinburgh. Martin451 (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

time

This article states that the ball drops at exactly 12 noon, even stating that during BST the times coincide, which makes no sense at all as they are in the same time zone obviously. Then in the next paragraph it states that the ball can be seen rising 5 minutes before 1pm in anticipation. i live in Edinburgh, the ball drops at 1pm not 12. i'm correcting the article. --Brideshead (talk) 18:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: done. Kotniski (talk) 09:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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Nelson's Monument → Nelson Monument — The official name of this structure is the Nelson Monument with no 's. Some people may call it 'Nelson's Monument' erroneously, but an encyclopaedia should give the correct term. Relisting Andrewa (talk) 13:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC) .--Kim Traynor (talk) 23:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

We do give the correct term: in the lead, which is as it should be. The title should be the term by which the monument is most popularly known. Powers ^T 13:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if either Nelson or Nelson's is more common. Most people I know seem to have no idea what it is called. If moved, it should go to Nelson Monument, Edinburgh to ensure disambiguation. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support, probably adding the disambiguator ", Edinburgh" as suggested above. The form without 's seems to be best supported by the sources. --Kotniski (talk) 13:00, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Fascinating... I would have assumed that both Nelson's Monument and Nelson Monument referred to the statue atop Nelson's Column, or the column and statue together. Currently this is not the case. Agree with LtPowers' reservations about this move as proposed, but I think the question of disambiguation is far more important. The monument in Trafalgar Square is world-famous, appearing for example in the preface to Asterix in Britain and in countless other places. The other monuments to Nelson, including the subject of this article, are far less famous IMO and need disambiguation. Andrewa (talk) 13:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support, possibly with the "Edinburgh" disambiguator. A search on Google Books and Google Scholar shows that *"nelson monument" scotland* is much more widely used than *"nelson's monument" scotland*, anyway. Much like Soldier's Field and Soldier Field. In this case, accuracy, educational value, and usage all support the move. First Light (talk) 22:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support It would appear from signage and the City Council websites that "Nelson Monument" is the commonly used official designation by the local authority. --Breadandcheese (talk) 05:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Move to Nelson Monument, Edinburgh, per Nelson Monument, Liverpool. There is also one in Glasgow. Nelson Monument should go to a disambiguation page. There is also The Nelson Monument, Portsdown Hill, and Nelsons Monument, Great Yarmouth (a redirect), and a (small) monument at Birchen Edge. Also Nelson's Column, Montreal and Nelson's Pillar. There must be loads of Nelson Monuments. Carcharoth (talk) 04:17, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Time to do something about this then. I've moved the article to Nelson Monument, Edinburgh - we now just need to change the links (I'm doing a few of them while I have time) so that Nelson's Monument can then be redrected to the same general page as Nelson Monument already is.--Kotniski (talk) 15:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

All right, complete, and redirect changed. (I've also suggested renaming the target page of Nelson Monument to something that's slightly less of a mouthful - see its talk page.)--Kotniski (talk) 09:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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A hideous monstrosity.

This eyesore, which only panders to the glorification of some Englishman who couldn't even bring himself to use the term British in acknowledgement of the considerable Scottish contribution to his military campaigns, should be bulldozed, not just because it is aesthetically offensive but because it has no relevance to Scottish history. Calton Hill gains nothing from its existance, and the prominent space it occupies could be used for something more pleasing to the eye which could also be regarded as a valuable legacy from the 21st century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.170.241 (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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