Talk:Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

When was she sentenced ?

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/iran-verurteilt-britin-wegen-spionagevorwurf-zu-fuenf-jahren-gefaengnis-a-1131173.html says that

Justizsprecher Gholamhussein Mohseni Edzehi announced that on Sunday 22 January 2017 (based on information of the Fars News Agency) . --Neun-x (talk) 20:09, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Is she a spy though?

With the whole issue of 'spy-cops' in the open and the police planting people inside campaign groups, it would make sense if the government was doing similar in other countries. Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe & her husband would benefit from their backgrounds being made more public on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.35.63 (talk) 01:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

When a journalist returns from Iran (whether or not they were involved in journalism while there) they will be debriefed by an SIS officer (the SIS officer will no doubt call themselves merely an FO official). To that extent she will have connections with what the media (wrongly) calls MI6. It's routine: business people (for example) returning from Iran will also get debriefed. 86.132.221.80 (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

No mention of Boris Johnson in the article? Needs updating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.6.101.33 (talk) 08:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

She was found guilty by a court. This must be made clear. She is not innocent in law. She is guilty. The term allegedly must not be used. It is equivalent to saying the a person allegedly committed fraud when found guilty in the UK courts. The term would then be found guilty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.49.57 (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

That she was found guilty on false/trumped-up charges by a kangaroo court is widely recognised. Nick Cooper (talk) 18:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Only "widely recognise"d by those with a political agenda to protect British subversions in foreign countries 86.148.59.171 (talk) 00:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources that describe her treatment and conviction as being the very model of independent jurisprudence, we can certainly discuss how best to integrate them into the article. Otherwise, best we stay away from WP:FORUM territory. 109.255.211.6 (talk) 01:07, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Diplomatic status

This is important but don't know where to put it

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/08/iran-rejects-uk-grant-of-diplomatic-status-to-zaghari-ratcliffe

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 19:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Prominent quote is guilt by association?

Thre presence of this quote on NZR's page suggests that it is related to something she's done, when there is no direct link. Also they weren't a "gang" in the Western sense of that word - they were in fact a bunch of bloggers for Iran's foremost gadget review website. Suggest delete or rewrite to reduce emphasis?

"This gang was running a number of projects and plans for anti-revolutionary Iranians based abroad, especially for the BBC Persian, under the guise of legitimate activities. Financial aid for this group was usually provided from London under the pretext of charitable donations. The director of the team was an individual who has served the BBC as a mentor and teacher in a number of countries such as Malaysia, India and Afghanistan and his travels to these countries were paid for by British intelligence services.[11]"

MrMistral (talk) 09:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree, Ratcliffe doesn't appear in the article used as a citation and the undue weight given to the quote encourages speculation and not fact regarding her involvement. I will remove the quote and leave the debate. Mramoeba (talk) 12:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I also removed the entirely unsupported paragraph as per WP:OR which appears to be an editors personal opinion of her guilt. Mramoeba (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Is she Guilty of Apostasy?

Is she still a Muslim? This is relevant and crucial to whether she is receiving fair treatment. It should be put in the early part of the article. 81.154.168.149 (talk) 17:37, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

I believe she's (still) a Muslim, but I really don't see the relevance. It's a crime in Iranian law, but not one she was ever charged with. So how do we get from there to the fairness of her treatment? And what source do have for any proposed addition? 109.255.211.6 (talk) 22:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Arms deal dispute

Under the arms deal dispute section we are saying the dispute still exists, however according to BBC news the dispute is over as the UK has paid it’s debt to Iran.

I ask how we should go about re-wording it. Maurice Oly (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

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