Talk:Naftali Bennett
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Minister of Cyber and National Digital Matters
editAccording to Hebrew Wikipedia and the Knesset's Official Website, Bennett served as the Minister of Cyber and National Digital Matters from 13/17 June to 3 August 2021. should this be included in the infobox? Similarly, Bennett is apparently the acting Minister of Religious Services, i'm not aware of any precedent for whether or not we add exclusively acting ministries to israeli politician infoboxes, so i'm not sure whether that should be included as well. Totalstgamer (talk) 10:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
He is no longer Prime Minister.
editthe article should reflect this. Notwisconsin (talk) 01:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Bennett is still the Prime Minister as of this message being written. as far as i understand, Lapid becomes the Prime Minister when the Knesset is dissolved, which is set to happen tomorrow. Per precedent the article shouldn't be altered until it happens officially Totalstgamer (talk) 11:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is worth updating both his value, the value of Yair Lapid, the value of the 24th Knesset, and the value of the 36th Government of Israel on the decision of the coalition leaders Bennett and Lapid to dissolve the 24th Knesset and advance the 25th Knesset elections. Late October-early November. The final dispersal process will end next week on Monday unless the right-wing factions led by Benjamin Netanyahu succeed in forming a right-wing government in the current Knesset together with Gideon Saar and Bnei Gantz (I am writing to you from Israel using "Google Translate"). with gratitude, דגן דיגן (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- If we're talking about the infobox, the precedent is that no changes are made until it happens. Lapid is not the prime minister-designate and Bennett remains the prime minister, its unclear precisely when the handover will take place and we have no way of reliably predicting the future and ensuring that it will. changes in the article's lead and body are entirely appropriate if written properly Totalstgamer (talk) 20:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that the Hebrew Wikipedia understands this issue better than you do. Here are quotes from each of the pages I mentioned:
- Naftali Bennett - "On June 20, 2022, Naftali Bennett and the Deputy Prime Minister of Israel Yair Lapid announced their intention to dissolve the Knesset of the Twenty-fourth Knesset and bring forward the election date to the 25th Knesset. "I will replace the prime minister and coordinate the confrontation with Iran. Bennett delivered his farewell speech as Israeli prime minister on June 23."
- Yair Lapid - "Lapid may be appointed Prime Minister of Israel in the week between June 26 and July 2, 2022, provided that his joint decision with Naftali Bennett to dissolve the Twenty-Fourth Knesset and advance the election date for the Twenty-fifth Knesset is fulfilled."
- 24th Knesset - "On June 20, 2022, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett announced the submission of a bill to dissolve the Knesset and bring forward the elections to the end of 2022."
- The 36th Government of Israel - "On June 20, 2022, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and Deputy Prime Minister Yair Lapid agreed to dissolve the Knesset and advance the elections after the attempts to stabilize the coalition were exhausted. The transitional prime minister will be Yair Lapid. And will (temporarily) solve this problem." Sincerely, דגן דיגן (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Those are all indeed quotes accurate to the political reality, and they should in altered form be included in these respective articles, i might add them in when i get around to it, but generally, infoboxes are not updated until something becomes official. Its clear the Knesset is meant to be dissolved, the same way it was clear on 5 April, 2021 that, say, Avi Maoz would become a member of the Knesset, but his page was only created on April 8. Besides, the Infobox keeps track of political offices and positions held by people. Lapid has not yet been, in 2022, the Prime Minister-Designate, and we can't mark Bennett's or the Government's terms as having ended in the infoboxes since we don't know when they'll end. I will note again that the articles themselves should and will be altered, the same way Next Israeli legislative election was altered, with mentions in the lead and an updated Background section Totalstgamer (talk) 13:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- I added a sentence to the lede to indicate the current situation. But until Lapid actually replaces him, he is still prime minister and the infobox should say that. Just like on 19 January 2020 (and even on the morning of 20 January 2020) Donald Trump's article still said he was president of the US, despite the fact that Biden had been elected to replace him shortly. Rlendog (talk) 14:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- It should be added at the outset that Bennett currently serves as the third alternate Israeli prime minister, settlement minister and minister of religions - all until a new government is formed in the twenty-fifth Knesset. דגן דיגן (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I added a sentence to the lede to indicate the current situation. But until Lapid actually replaces him, he is still prime minister and the infobox should say that. Just like on 19 January 2020 (and even on the morning of 20 January 2020) Donald Trump's article still said he was president of the US, despite the fact that Biden had been elected to replace him shortly. Rlendog (talk) 14:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Those are all indeed quotes accurate to the political reality, and they should in altered form be included in these respective articles, i might add them in when i get around to it, but generally, infoboxes are not updated until something becomes official. Its clear the Knesset is meant to be dissolved, the same way it was clear on 5 April, 2021 that, say, Avi Maoz would become a member of the Knesset, but his page was only created on April 8. Besides, the Infobox keeps track of political offices and positions held by people. Lapid has not yet been, in 2022, the Prime Minister-Designate, and we can't mark Bennett's or the Government's terms as having ended in the infoboxes since we don't know when they'll end. I will note again that the articles themselves should and will be altered, the same way Next Israeli legislative election was altered, with mentions in the lead and an updated Background section Totalstgamer (talk) 13:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- If we're talking about the infobox, the precedent is that no changes are made until it happens. Lapid is not the prime minister-designate and Bennett remains the prime minister, its unclear precisely when the handover will take place and we have no way of reliably predicting the future and ensuring that it will. changes in the article's lead and body are entirely appropriate if written properly Totalstgamer (talk) 20:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is worth updating both his value, the value of Yair Lapid, the value of the 24th Knesset, and the value of the 36th Government of Israel on the decision of the coalition leaders Bennett and Lapid to dissolve the 24th Knesset and advance the 25th Knesset elections. Late October-early November. The final dispersal process will end next week on Monday unless the right-wing factions led by Benjamin Netanyahu succeed in forming a right-wing government in the current Knesset together with Gideon Saar and Bnei Gantz (I am writing to you from Israel using "Google Translate"). with gratitude, דגן דיגן (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Inconsistent date format
editAt the end of the lead, it says “Lapid succeeded him as prime minister on July 1, 2022” when all the other dates are dmy, so it should say 1 July 2022 for consistency Someonefromohio (talk) 15:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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The Prime Minister date range in the infobox is wrong. It is currently 13 June 2021 – 1 July 2022, but must be 13 June 2021 – 30 June 2022 Lapid became Prime Minister at midnight[1] so Bennett was no longer Prime Minister on 1 July 2022 CrazyPredictor (talk) 00:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed it. PrimaPrime (talk) 22:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Keller-Lynn, Carrie; staff, T. O. I. "Lapid at PM handover ceremony with Bennett: 'The job is bigger than all of us'". www.timesofisrael.com. Retrieved 2022-07-03.
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I would like to add the fact that Bennett remains on as Alternate Prime Minister and Minister of Community Affairs until the next government is formed. Source for that info is this page that was already updated on July 1 2022: https://main.knesset.gov.il/EN/mk/government/Pages/governments.aspx?govId=36#
So I would suggest adding this to the bottom of the summary page:
"Bennett assumed the role of Alternate Prime Minister on July 1 2022 and will continue serving until a new government is formed. He also continues to serve as Minister of Community Affairs."
This simply matches what we already say in the infobox of the article.
Open for further suggestions. CrazyPredictor (talk) 23:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Partly done: I felt that the existing mentioning was fine, but I added the second sentence in your suggestion. Further editors may alter or move it to where they think it fits best. SWinxy (talk) 23:10, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Post-prime minister business roles
editSince being ousted as Prime Minister, Bennett has taken up a few Israeli tech roles that are worth adding to the page. I am locked out of editing the page, but worth noting Board seats for Lasso Security and Quantum Source in this article. Illuminator21 (talk) 07:00, 11 February 2024 (UTC)