Talk:Myrtis of Anthedon/GA1

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Nominator: Caeciliusinhorto (talk · contribs) 13:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 22:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Small stuff, really: I don't think any of this is at all show-stopping.

• The only surviving record of her poetry is a paraphrase by Plutarch, discussing a local Boeotian legend. In antiquity she was included by Antipater of Thessalonica in his canon of nine female poets, and a bronze statue of her was reportedly made by Boïscus: can these people be introduced briefly, at least by approximate period? We introduce, for example, Pindar and Corinna as poets.
• She dates to the sixth century BC: Things normally "date to" a time period: "she lived in"?
• the fragment of Corinna: a bit classicist-ese: consider the fragment of Corinna's poetry or similar?
• Myrtis is the most obscure of the nine women poets included in Antipater of Thessalonica's canon: definitely needs a date. I'd be tempted to do a footnote with the other eight, as the phrasing raises that question. Very much optional, but lots of style guides consider "female poets" more up-to-date than "women poets", which has a slight whiff of e.g. Woman police constable.
• a woman named Ochna, Eunostos' cousin, was rejected by him and so told her brothers that Eunostos had raped her: consider sticking the word falsely or similar in here, to be clear that she didn't reveal a real crime. It becomes obvious a couple of sentences later.
• On checking the Loeb, I think there's a mistake or two in the Greek transcription. Campbell's text has:

μέμφομη δὲ κὴ λιγουρὰν
Μουρτίδ᾿ ἱώνγ᾿ ὅτι βανὰ φοῦσ᾿
ἔβα Πινδάροι πὸτ ἔριν,
καὶ ἔτι

You may be using a different edition, of course, but I've never seen the Greek word λιγουπὰν, and can't find any hits for it in dictionaries. Likewise, I can't see why Μουρτίδ' would lack an accent. As we're using Campbell's translation, we should surely also use the version of the text he's translating?

• Corinna criticized Myrtis for venturing, as a woman, to compete with Pindar. Criticising other poets: EngVar confusion here.
• an 1897 painting by the Swiss artist Ernst Stückelberg depicts Myrtis and Corinna with the Potter Agathon: not sure about using the title as part of the sentence here: we're talking about what it depicts, rather than using its name, so better to deitalicise if keeping the phrasing the same.
• She is included on Judy Chicago's Heritage Floor, associated with the place-setting for Sappho in The Dinner Party, and in Anselm Kiefer's series of Women of Antiquity: I found it a bit unclear as to how many works of art we are talking about here.
• File:House of C Poppaeus Firmus VI 14,38 Pompeii 1879 drawing of painting of Pindar and Corinna from center of the south wall of triclinium (e) by G Discanno cropped.jpg: Bit of work needed on the licensing here. Firstly and most boringly, we need a PD US tag. Secondly, we need a date/PD tag for the drawing, not just the original painting, which probably would qualify as a new copyright. If you know when the painting was lost, that could give a sufficient terminus ante quem?
• No date for the Langley source? Come to think of it, why doesn't he get to be in the bibliography?
• Segal 1989: 7 Choral Lyric in the Fifth Century: is the 7 just the chapter number? Cut if so.
• Hardly a big deal for GA, but some books have ISBNs, others have no identifiers at all. Those published before ISBNs were standard could have OCLCs.
• You might wish to clarify that the de Vos thesis is a PhD, since that makes it admissible as a source (whereas an MA thesis would generally not be).
• Another minor point at this level, but it would be best to make the spacing of initials consistent in the bibliography (that is, put spaces in for e.g. Pat Easterling and Bernard Knox).
• Could link Stephen Harrison (classicist) and Charles Segal (classicist) in the biblio.

Spot checks to follow, but only because I haven't quite got the energy this evening: fully expect all to be in order. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 22:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)