Talk:Muumuu

"Traditional" garment?

That bit toward the end of the article calling the mu'umu'u "traditional Hawaiian Garb" is mistaken, as the mu'u is the invention of the missionaries, but I don't know what to change it to. Any suggestions?

168.105.116.57 11:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Aki

Well all traditions start somewhere and often they are imported or adapted from other cultures, so I'm not sure that phrase is incorrect. Assuming it became a common tradition after the missionaries introduced it (I don't know the history of it myself) perhaps simply making the sentence more specific to say that would be a good solution (maybe something like "became traditional Hawaiian Garb in (year) after invention by Christian missionaries"). I would guess the missionaries came up with it because they were offended by the then native garb which offended their idea of modesty? If so, adding this might be helpful too. --Ericjs 21:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Can we please get a picture of a real person wearing one, not just Homer? Daniel Case 15:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

In the picture the person wearing the muumuu has a long-sleeved shirt on under it. Is this standard? or is the muumuu usually worn without a shirt? Or is it indifferent? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:38, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Spelling

If it is "more often spelled as muumuu" why doesn't this article use that spelling? I would argue that "muumuu" is the actual English word, "muʻumuʻu" being the Hawaiian, and though the English certainly derives from it, the English version of the word should be used in English language Wikipedia articles. Spellings commonly change when we borrow words from other languages (just as they do in other languages when they borrow from English), and spelling it in the way of the original language is not more correct. We don't write "sonetto" instead of "sonnet" simply because we adapted the word from Italian.--Ericjs 22:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• I agree. Furthermore there are significant technical problems with the current title - I have little idea how to type it and the special characters appear as boxes on my screen. The OED has the main headword as muumuu and doesn't have our form as an alternate spelling. I shall try moving this to muumuu. Colonel Warden (talk) 17:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Y That's done. I checked a few incoming links and they seem to use the muumuu form so we're good. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I changed mumu to muumuu in the popular culture section and it was reverted. I can't figure out how to find the message again. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 02:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

In popular culture

• The word muumuu is mentioned frequently throughout the series of Home Improvement
• In Zebrahead's tour "The show must go off", Justin wears a muʻumuʻu.
• The cartoon character Zippy always wears a yellow muumuu with red polka dots.
• In The Simpsons cartoon series episode "King-Size Homer", Homer Simpson wears a muʻumuʻu after becoming more obese than he usually is.
• In The West Wing episode "The U.S. Poet Laureate", there is a classic scene in which Josh describes the moderator of a fansite devoted to him as "a dictatorial leader who I'm sure wears a muumuu and chainsmokes Parliaments".
• Jon Fishman, drummer from the jam-rock group Phish, is often seen wearing a muʻumuʻu while playing, as he feels it lets him move freely.
• In Queer As Folk, Debbie frequently wears muumuus.
• Pleakly, an alien from Lilo and Stitch, often wears it.
• In Married... With Children most fat people are described by Al Bundy as wearing a mumu.
• In the cartoon Daria, the recurring character Mrs. Johanssen was a massively obese, hypoglycemic woman who was only ever seen wearing a muumuu.
• In the Drawn Together episode "Toot Goes Bollywood", Toot Braunstein buys a muumuu, and gets mistaken for a cow by an Indian family.
• Musical terrorists Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond, more reknowned as The KLF, have also gone under the guise as "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu"

References

Popular culture section

I think this section really needs to be cleaned up, not removed. Although I doubt the significant coltural impact of the muumuu, in this case I think it's been brought to greated cultural attention through these "in popular culture" examples. However, for this content to stay, I think we need to have atleast one source about the muumuu and it's introduction into the general populace. --NickPenguin_(contribs) 01:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I just looked at the section and don't see any redeeming value. On Wikipedia the burden of proof is always on the editor adding the content into the article, so if you could explain what should be cleaned up and how, I would be interested. Of course, if I had my way, I would add the image of Homer wearing the muʻumuʻu, as King-Size Homer brings back very fond memories of a simpler, happier time. Viriditas (talk) 03:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

There may be some bloat, I agree. But that doesn't mean the whole section should be deleted. Doctorfluffy apparently has no desire to discuss his/her reverts so I suppose its fine as is. Information is the same whether someone finds it trivial or not. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 18:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

None of it belongs there. Shall I remove it again now? Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 19:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the most trivial listings where the muumuu is not the focus of any special attention. The rest should probably still go too though. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 19:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I agree with the changes. I'm all for keeping down the trivia bloat but that doesn't mean seemingly trivial information should just be thrown out en masse. I'm glad we could reach a compromise. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 23:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I've removed a few more. The focus here should be how the muumuu is associated with obese people and the freedom of movement the clothing allows, etc, not just simply someone mentioning the word or wearing the thing because its funny to say the word muumuu. Examples that portray the way popular culture views the muumuu is what should stay. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 23:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

WTH??!! Helen Roper on "Three's Company" was THE FIRST wearer in pop culture. The fact that she's not mentioned is just terrible. Also, the Helen Roper (character) in the TC entry doesn't mention she wore them. What's wrong w/ you people?! ;-) Macshill (talk) 08:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)