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Two problems I note with this article. First is the absurd UNRECOGNIZABLE photo of someone (her?) in a mask. It adds nothing to the article - other than providing some stereotypical racial information. Second, the article claims she is the "stepmother" to Hunter's 3 (of his 4) daughters. The problem with this is that she is only 7 or 8 years older than the eldest daughter and that all 3 are adults. (When she married him, after a 1 week relationship, in 2019, the youngest girl was 18, already an adult for all practical purposes.) The definition of step[parent] requires parenting. Since the kids are now (and were then) adults, that she fills that role is dubious. I think it is likely to be misleading. Unless the daughters actually call someone only a few years older than them "Mom", it should, imho, be removed.40.142.183.146 (talk) 05:13, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I removed it entirely, it does not belong there. There's two stub sentences about her entire life this decade (son was born, inauguration of father-in-law) in Later Life, probably a dozen words total, yet we're going to write multiple sentences about a courtroom hallway conversation between two parties? This isn't the news, always keep WP:RECENT in mind, make sure the content that is added serves an encyclopedic purpose. Criticalus (talk) 18:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't disagree but that's an argument to merge. There's nothing to write. I tried to find coverage of her documentaries or advocacy and came up with nothing; all of the coverage is related to her husband or her marriage. Maybe we should keep WP:NOTINHERITED in mind. JSFarman (talk) 20:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't know enough about her to know whether she is notable or not, and you may right that there may not have been enough reliable sources to establish notability on the basis of her documentary or advocacy work, and WP:INVALIDBIO implies that NOTINHERITED can be applied specifically to BLP notability. Still, as a whole the article is certainly more than a stub, with the ongoing news more reliable sources are being generated every day, and I personally wouldn't make an argument to merge/delete it at this time.
As far as the balance of the article, the additions by MyMets to expand the earlier sections a bit seem to be helpful, the edits also help resolve my concern about the undue weight given before to the courtroom hallway conversation, and offer added context of an ongoing lawsuit. Criticalus (talk) 20:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Her husband, a notorious figure, is on trial. She figures prominently in his book and the coverage of it. She made headlines (on MSNBC as well as FOX) with her finger-pointing attack outside a courtroom against a man her husband is suing. Look, I didn't start the entry on Melissa Cohen Biden. I just think if she's worth an entry it's worth mentioning why she's in the news. And taking out a FOX story but not a NBC one is just bias. MyMets (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I was praising your edits, not going after them. But the sourcing side, FOX News is generally considered unreliable for politics news for Wiki purposes (see: WP:FOXNEWSPOLITICS). I won't remove the FOX source, but I think JSFarman was right to swap it for NBC. Re: "worth mentioning why she's in the news" I think WP:NOTNEWS is relevant. Again, though, I don't think there is a need for a merge/delete here.
I don't care to get into politics, as the focus should be solely on working together on the Wiki article, but on an unrelated note, describing Hunter as some notorious figure is somewhat humorous. He's just the son of the President and a reformed drug addict who did some stupid shit, not some mob boss or gang kingpin as "notorious" might imply. Really trying to avoid the politics, but just the word choice made me chuckle. Criticalus (talk) 21:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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