Talk:Loure

The Loure called Bourree II

I don't really know how to edit the reference, but I just want to note that the Alfred edition of the French Suites (second edition 1994) says the following:

In the Gerger manuscript (P1221) and in P420, the Loure is missing. It appears in Bach's autograph (P224) as well as in manuscripts P639, P212, P548, P304, Am.B.50 and Am.B.76. In manuscripts P212 and P304 it is titled "Bourrée 2."

The numbers refer to various manusccripts and copies. The two with the misnamed Loure are:

• P212: "An incomplete copy of Suite 5 by J. N. Forkel from the second half of the 18th century. Contains the Allemande, Loure (called "Bourrée 2!"), and Gigue.
• P304: "A manuscript from the late 18th century by an unidentified writer. Contains all six French Suites. In Suites 2 and 6, the Menuet comes after the Gigue'; in Suite 3 the Menuet & Trio follow the Sarabande', and the Anglaise is called "Gavotte;" the Menuet is missing in Suite 4: in Suite 5 the Loure is titled "Bourrée 2.""

So make your judgement call as to whether it was incorrectly named. (I'd tend to agree, since most manuscript sources seem to call it "Loure".) ~GMH talk to me 21:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Merriam-Webster's says this word is pronounced ˈlu̇(ə)r. How many people are saying "loo-ray" (especially as it's associated with the "boo-ray")? Wouldn't a pronunciation key be helpful? There's a template for that, but I've never used it, and am afraid I haven't time to figure it out right now. Any experienced volunteers? – AndyFielding (talk) 08:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Only people who don't know the words are French could be confused, and that's probably not a whole lot, given that bourrée has an accent. The standard rules for French leave only one way to pronounce loure. Note that the lourée in gigue lourée is pronounced like bourrée, as one might expect. Of course adding an IPA template wouldn't hurt or anything. 86.90.240.85 (talk) 16:02, 25 December 2023 (UTC)