Talk:Local highways of South Korea

Requested move 26 November 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved to Local highways of Korea. There is a consensus below that the present title is unsatisfactory, and that a WP:NDESC title is preferable. Most editors seem willing to accept either 'local' or 'provincial', but the research below shows that 'local' is used officially, and I think that it makes sense to adopt the learned approach of compromise. (non-admin closure) RGloucester — ☎ 15:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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Jibangdo → Provincial highways of South Korea – Its name is transliterate of Korean language. In English Wikipedia, titles of highway systems of South Korea is xxxx of South Korea, not transliterated. Chugun (talk) 11:17, 26 November 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. —UY Scuti ^Talk 14:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 16:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

@Chugun: Where did these names come from, Provincial highways and Country-aided provincial highways? --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 12:01, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Well, it is named from the manager (province). In English Wikipedia, the naming convention suggest translated one in most cases. You are using transliterated one, but the transliteration has some problems: the most important issue is that it is not English words. Translated words — i.e. English words — show its meaning directly, so in most cases, using translated words is far better than using transliterated words.

한국어로 조금 더 말씀드리자면, 직접적으로 로마자 전사를 사용하는 경우는 로마자로 전사를 해야하는 고유명사 등의 충분한 이유가 있어야만 합니다. 그러나 이 경우는 시스템의 특성을 더 잘 반영하는 영어 단어를 쓰는 것이 낫습니다. --Chugun (talk) 12:35, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't care of the name, but why did you merge? --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 12:47, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Since they are based on same law (도로법 2-15). 국지도 is *SUB*-category of 지방도, not the main category. --Chugun (talk) 12:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Chugun: Do you think ko:국가지원지방도 has to merge in ko:대한민국의 지방도? --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 23:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

That will be the topic of Korean Wikipedia, and I won't mention (and I don't care) about them here since this is English Wikipedia, not Korean Wikipedia. --Chugun (talk) 09:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Chugun: Road Act uses these English words.

1. National expressways (including their branch lines);
2. General national highways (including their branch lines);
3. Special Metropolitan City roads and Metropolitan City roads;
4. Local highways;
5. Si roads;
6. Gun roads;
7. Gu roads.

--ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 13:11, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose the proposal per User:ㅂㄱㅇ but support a move from the current title to an English descriptive title. Chapter III, Article 10 of the Korean Road Act (Click here, scroll down to #28 and click on that for the act) uses User:ㅂㄱㅇ's list above. Additionally, "provincial" is not a very accurate translation of jibang (지방/地方). —  AjaxSmack  03:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

@AjaxSmack: What do you oppose per me? --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 02:53, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I oppose Provincial highways of South Korea. I amended my comment above to clarify that. —  AjaxSmack  03:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

• Support move but relisting again to allow further discussion of possible new title(s). The existing title is most unlikely to be the common name in English. The proposed title Provincial highways of South Korea seems acceptable, but perhaps there is a better one... suggestions? Andrewa (talk) 16:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support move Well, the designation and management of 지방도 is ruled by the provinces of South Korea, hence the word Provincial can be the meaningful translation of Jibang. But I support both the word 'local' and the 'provincial', though. I think it will be better to use 'local highway' since the act is using it. --Chugun (talk) 19:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Each route's name

Expressways use "{Name} Expressway", and National highways use "National Route {Number} (South Korea)". Do Local highways have to use "Local Route {Number} (South Korea)"? --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (Bieup Giyeok Ieung) 05:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)