Talk:List of survivors of Sobibor
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Victims
edit| Style. | |
|---|---|
| Male | |
| Female |
| List of Sobibor Victims | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Date of birth | Date of death | Age | Nationality | Faith | Notes |
| Mozes Jacobs[1] | November 26, 1905 | July 9, 1943 | 37 years, 225 days | Dutch | Gymnast. Participated at the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam.[2] | |
| Walter M. Poppert[3] | March 26, 1914 | October 30, 1943 | 29 years, 218 days | German | Husband of Gertrud Poppert née Schönborn. In 1943 he was foreman of the Waldkommando in the Sobibor Extermination camp.[4] | |
| Max van Dam[5][6] | March 19, 1910 | September 20, 1943 | 33 years, 185 days | Dutch | Art Painter. | |
| Abraham de Oliveira[2] | May 4, 1880 | March 26, 1943 | 62 years, 326 days | Dutch | Gymnast. | |
| Isidore Goudeket[2] | August 1, 1883 | July 9, 1943 | 59 years, 342 days | Dutch | Gymnast. | |
| Anna Dresden-Polak[2] | November 24, 1906 | July 23, 1943 | 36 years, 241 days | Dutch | Jewish | Gymnast. Her husband Barend Dresden was killed at Auschwitz on November 30, 1944. |
| Eva Dresden[7] | 1936 or 1937 | July 23, 1943 | 6 years | Dutch | Jewish | Daughter of Anna Dresden-Polak and Barend Dresden (killed at Auschwitz, November 30, 1944). |
| Jud Simons[8] | August 20, 1904 | March 3, 1943 | 38 years, 195 days | Dutch | Jewish | Gymnast.[2] |
| Bernard Salomon Themans[9] | April 5, 1909 | March 3, 1943 | 33 years, 332 days | Dutch | Jewish | Husband of Judik Themans née Simons. |
| Sonja Themans[10] | 1937 or 1938 | March 3, 1943 | 5 years | Dutch | Jewish | Daughter of Judik Themans née Simons and Bernard Themans. |
| Leon Themans[11] | 1939 or 1940 | March 3, 1943 | 3 years | Dutch | Jewish | Son of Judik Themans née Simons and Bernard Themans. |
| Emanuel Querido | August 6, 1871 | July 23, 1943 | 71 years, 320 days | Dutch | Jewish | Publisher. His wife was also killed at the camp at the same time. |
| Leo Smit[12][13] | May 14, 1900 | April 30, 1943 | 42 years, 351 days | Dutch | Jewish | Composer. |
| Michel Velleman | January 5, 1895 | July 2, 1943 | 48 years, 178 days | Dutch | Jewish | Magician. |
| Helga Deen[14][15] | April 6, 1925 | July 16, 1943 | 18 years, 101 days | German | Jewish | Diarist. Her parents and brother were killed at the same time. |
| Else Feldmann[16] | February 25, 1884 | June 1942 | 57 or 58 years | Austrian | Jewish | Writer, playwright, poet, socialist journalist. |
| Jakob van Hoddis[17] | May 16, 1887 | c. April 30, 1942 | 54 years, 349 days | German | Jewish | Poet, generally regarded with writing the preliminary expressionist poem, inspiring countless poets.[18] Mentally ill, transported to Sobibor along with the 500 patients and staff of his sanitorium on April 30, 1942, all of whom perished. |
| Han Hollander[19] | October 5, 1886 | July 9, 1943 | 56 years, 277 days | Dutch | Jewish | Journalist. First Dutch radio sports journalist. |
| Leentje Hollander-Smeer[20] | October 6, 1886 | July 9, 1943 | 56 years, 276 days | Dutch | Jewish | Wife of Han Hollander. Their daughter Froukje Esther Waterman-Hollander was killed at Auschwitz on February 28, 1943. |
| Elisabeth Kleerekoper[21] | October 14, 1928 | July 2, 1943 | 14 years, 261 days | Dutch | Daughter of Gerrit Kleerekoper and Kaatje Kleerekoper- | |
| Gerrit Kleerekoper[22] | February 15, 1897 | July 2, 1943 | 46 years, 137 days | Dutch | Coach of the women's gymnastic team which won the gold medal at the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam.[2] | |
| Kaatje Kleerekoper-Ossedrijver[23] | August 29, 1895 | July 2, 1943 | 47 years, 307 days | Dutch | Spouse of Gerrit Kleerekoper | |
| Abraham Kloot[24] | July 28, 1902 | July 2, 1943 | 40 years, 339 days | Dutch | Spouse of Helena Kloot née Nordheim | |
| Helena Nordheim[25] | August 1, 1903 | July 2, 1943 | 39 years, 335 days | Dutch | Gymnast, member of the women's gymnastic team which won the gold medal at the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam.[2] | |
| Rebecca Kloot[26] | April 12, 1933 | July 2, 1943 | 10 years, 81 days | Dutch | Daughter of Helena Kloot née Nordheim and Abraham Kloot |
Why is this on a Talk page? If I remember correctly a list like this used to be a on a regular article page. What happened? If there was some kind of split or move was there a reason why this list wasn't given its own page as well? Verso.Sciolto (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Article created with edited table at List of victims of Sobibor. Verso.Sciolto (talk) 16:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- ^ Mozes Jacobs in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ a b c d e f g Schaffer, Kay; Smith, Sidonie (2000). The Olympics at the Millennium: Power, Politics, and the Games. Rutgers University Press. pp. 60–62. ISBN 9780813528205.
- ^ Walter M. Poppert, in the German Federal Archives Memorial Book.
- ^ Schelvis, Jules. Vernietigingskamp Sobibor. De Bataafsche Leeuw. ISBN 9789067076296.
- ^ Scholtz, Wim, ed. (1986). Max van Dam, Joods Kunstenaar 1910-1943. Vereniging het Museum Winterswijk. ISBN 90-70560-07-0.
- ^ Max van Dam in Digital Monument to the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Taylor, Paul (2004). Jews and the Olympic Games. Sussex Academic Press. p. 107. ISBN 9781903900871.
- ^ Judik Themans née Simons in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Bernard Themans in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Sonja Themans in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Leon Themans in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ http://www.leosmit.nl/over_leosmit.html
- ^ Samama, L. (2006). Nederlandse muziek in de twintigste eeuw: voorspel tot een nieuwe dag (in Dutch). Amsterdam University Press. p. 149. ISBN 9789053568620.
- ^ "Shades of Anne Frank in Dutch prison camp diary." Sydney Morning Herald, 22 October 2004.
- ^ "Dutch uncover diary of Nazi camp". BBC News. 2004-10-20. Retrieved 2008-08-10.
- ^ Keepers of the Motherland: German Texts by Jewish Women Writers, Dagmar C.G. Lorenz. 1997.
- ^ History of Holocaust
- ^ Kundera, Ludvík. Expresionismus. p. 10.
{{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter:|unused_data=(help) - ^ Han Hollander on the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Leentje Hollander-Smeer on the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Elisabeth Kleerekoper in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Gerrit Kleerekoper in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Kaatje Kleerekoper née Ossedrijver in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Abraham Kloot in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Helena Kloot née Nordheim in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
- ^ Helena Kloot in the Digital Monument of the Jewish Community in the Netherlands
Wrong Esther Raab
editCurrently, the chart links to the wrong Esther Raab. The correct Esther Raab (just died) is not the one in this article (died in '81). I would correct this but I'd probably bugger up the code. :) Would someone please correct this? Cheers,
— Berean Hunter (talk) 04:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Major problems with notability
editSimilar to unconfirmed list of perpetrators not notable individually, discussed at Talk:Trawniki men#Complete list, loosely remembered names of survivors picked up only from the first-party memoirs have no place in Wikipedia. A sea of redlinks have been de-linked for now as the minimum precaution because these entries do not exist and there's nothing to write about. See WP:LISTPEOPLE for more. Poeticbent talk 13:54, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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Incorrect details on entries
editThe link for Josef Cukierman goes to a person who committed suicide in 1941, when it says that this survivor died in 1963.
Moshe Hochman - born 1953? How is he a survivor of Sobibor?
Simjon Rosenfeld - date of death "Alive" yet it states age of death 96.
Philip Bialowitz - no age of death given, yet his wiki page says he was 90. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8308:23E:2F00:1FB:6E2F:CAAB:97E5 (talk) 12:00, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Sobibór trial which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Sourcing death dates
editJust leaving a note that I'm going to be using newspaper obituaries to cite death dates of recently deceased individuals. I'm not hugely happy about this, since obituaries tend to have numerous factual errors about survivors' lives. If you disagree with this choice, let's discuss. And if you're reading this in the future, when there might be print sources that give death dates for the last handful of survivors, please update the sources! Botterweg14 (talk) 13:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Turns out Cüppers et al (Fotos aus Sobibor) has accurate death dates for the last handful of survivors. Botterweg14 (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)