Talk:List of birds of Texas

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Craigthebirder in topic August 2021 revision

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User:Careyj: This page is meant to be a list of the Birds of Texas, not a description of bird families. For the description of bird families, users can click on the name of the bird family.

American cliff swallow

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Is there a reason for making the description of the species more vague by calling it only "Cliff swallow?" I'm fully aware there is no species called only the "cliff swallow" but there also seems no point in shortening it when the official name includes "American." Is there a reason for this I'm not seeing? WarpSpeedRainbowRead (talk) 17:00, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, okay. Read the comment about the edit and I understand the change. However, the Wiki article is called "American cliff swallow." Rather than try to edit it on individual lists of birds with citation from the AOS, wouldn't it make more sense to go to the article on the bird itself and make the argument for changing the article name? This just caused me a little bit of confusion in my fun-time studies and I'm sure it might cause a little for others. Just a suggestion. It's not that important to me but it seems to be for others. WarpSpeedRainbowRead (talk) 17:07, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

What you say makes sense, but unfortunately species common names often don't make sense; that's why scientific names are used to clear up ambiguity. In this case different sources are used for the Texas article and the American cliff swallow article and they use different common names. Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  17:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
Okay, so it's just a pedantry then right? Like, we all know it's the same species and we all know it would make it clearer to call it one thing throughout but someone cited the article they like so they can call it the name they prefer and now it gonna be a big deal over nothing and YAY someone gets they want and to hell with making things clear on lay people that want to learn! Lame. Whatever. Moving on. WarpSpeedRainbowRead (talk) 17:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's a little more than pedantry, but only just a little. The standard on Wikipedia for bird article titles is to follow the IOC World Bird List (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/References), but most lists of birds of a specific place are based on lists produced by other people. For Texas, it's The Check-list of North American Birds. Honestly, there have been long discussions about the best way to do it and this is the compromise. It's not perfect but it is ok.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  18:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

July 5, 2020 revisions

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Because of the large number of changes necessitated by the update to the Check-list of North and Middle American Birds which the American Ornithological Society published on June 30, 2020, the revisions to this article are presented here rather than in a long series of edit summaries. Changes are per the AOS unless otherwise noted.

  • Revise the references, counts, and text in the introduction.
  • Add 3 species per TBRC.
  • Revise 3 genera.
  • Revise multiple families' common names per Clements.
  • Revise the sequence of species in family Phasiannidae (Pheasants, grouse, and allies).
  • Revise the sequence of species in genus Selasphorus (Hummingbirds).
  • Revise the sequence of genera in family Trochilidae (Hummingbirds).
  • Revise the sequence of species in family Rallidae (Rails, gallinules, and coots).
  • Revise the sequence of families in order Suliformes.
  • Revise the sequence of species in family Phalacrocoracidae (Cormorants and shags).

Craigthebirder (talk) 02:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thick-billed parrot

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"Extirpated" more properly refers to an established population that no longer is present. The one or two records of this species in Texas don't qualify as evidence of a viable population, so labeling the species as accidental/historical is appropriate. Craigthebirder (talk) 12:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

August 2021 revision

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These are the changes made to update this list to the 2021 Check-list of North and Middle American Birds published by the American Ornithological Society (AOS) on June 29, 2021. In addition, one species was added per the TBRC.

  • Revise the sequence of families in Order Passeriformes.
  • Split mew gull into common gull and short-billed gull and revise entries accordingly.
  • Revise the binomials of cormorant species.
  • Revise the specific epithet of crested caracara.
  • Revise the genus and position of ruby-crowned kinglet.
  • Revise text, counts, and references as appropriate.

Craigthebirder (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply