Talk:List of Hulu original programming/Archive 1
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Missing Shows
I'm going to start a list of shows that are missing, and we can figure out where to put them later.
- Around the Way
- The Bisexual
- Crime + Punishment
- Find Me in Paris
- Holly Hobbie
- March of the Penguins 2: The Next Step
- Minding the Gap
- Moone Boy
- UnREAL
LowRise (talk) 00:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Shows or films that were produced independently of Hulu and later acquired by them for streaming in other territories are not listed as is the general policy of many network or streaming service list articles such as Netflix or Amazon following a consensus among editors. Some of the series listed above may be relevant to include in the Exclusive international television distribution section of the article if proper citations can be made from reliable, secondary sources that would confirm Hulu's acquisition. Wikipedia policies or essays that have been used to support this sort of thinking have included WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:LISTCRUFT. – BoogerD (talk) 04:23, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Category
Per User:BoogerD, shows should only be tagged with Category:Hulu original programming if they were developed by Hulu and not if they were simply acquired by Hulu for exclusive international television distribution. A good test (although perhaps not comprehensive) is if the show is a Hulu show in all markets. --LowRise (talk) 04:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I found a reference: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Categories --LowRise (talk) 18:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Shows in the category but not on the page
The following shows are tagged Category:Hulu original programming but are not listed on this page. Presumably, since the category is more restrictive than the page, these mismatches should be rectified, but perhaps these are special cases where the status quo is correct.
- Crow's Blood - made by Hulu for the Japanese market in 2016, aired in the US on El Rey in 2017 but no longer available there, currently only available in the US for purchase on Amazon.
- Death Note: New Generation - Hulu Japan, not available in the US.
- Elvira's Movie Macabre#2014: 13 Nights of Elvira - the Hulu connection was 13 Nights of Elvira, which is currently not available on Hulu, but is available on other platforms (Amazon, Vudu, Tubi...).
- Resident Advisors (TV series) - this one is available on Hulu in the US, although they don't (any longer?) label it as a Hulu Original. It is available on other services (Amazon, Tubi) abridged and combined as a movie. I haven't read through all of the Deadline and Hollywood Reporter articles yet, but it looks like Hulu didn't commission it, but they did buy it, and they were the initial distributors. So it's a Hulu original if not a Hulu exclusive?
Shows missing from Hulu's originals page
The following shows are tagged Category:Hulu original programming, and are listed on this page, but not listed on Hulu's originals page. They may all be legitimate, but are worth a look to confirm. Most are probably upcoming shows, with a few not labeled as originals or no longer available.
- The Act (TV series)
- Catch-22 (miniseries)
- Crossing Swords
- Dollface
- Four Weddings and a Funeral (miniseries)
- Little Fires Everywhere (miniseries)
- The Morning After (web series)
- Mother Up!
- PEN15
- Ramy (TV series)
- Shrill (TV series)
- Solar Opposites
- Veronica Mars
- Wu-Tang: An American Saga
— Preceding unsigned comment added by LowRise (talk • contribs) 21:11, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
In development section? Page protection?
A user is removing the in development section. I replaced it. Should we keep it or get rid of it? We may need a protection on this page. I have had to re-add sections from this user before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.179.136.219 (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Orphaned references in List of original programs distributed by Hulu
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of original programs distributed by Hulu's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "S2Renewal":
- From Dollface: White, Peter (January 17, 2020). "'Dollface' & 'Wu-Tang: An American Saga' Renewed For Season 2 By Hulu – TCA". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved January 17, 2020.
- From Ramy (TV series): Pedersen, Erik (May 1, 2019). "'Pen15' & 'Ramy' Renewed For Season 2 On Hulu". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved May 1, 2019.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:45, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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Japanese co-productions
I noticed that there was originally a list of Japanese co-productions on this page but it seems to have been removed. Any reason as to why? lullabying (talk) 01:37, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- For reference, there was a series of removals on August 25-27 2021. lullabying (talk) 22:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Production companies
I apologize for making the tables more crowded than necessary. I just thought it would be nice to include the production companies since they're acknowledged at the beginning. Example: Hulu Presents – A Hulu Original – A 20th Television Production TVBuff90 (talk) 17:30, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Changing Seasons column to Episode count
I propose changing the Seasons column to Episode count. Currently the column does not cover minis, which dont have seasons, so Episode count would be a better fit for those too. Picsovina (talk) 13:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Disagree - (copying part of my answer from Talk:List of Disney+ original programming) I'd argue that the number of seasons a show has tells one more about the show than the number of episodes, as story arcs and show longevity are reflected in seasons. 1 season of 10 episodes means something different than 2 seasons of 5 episodes each. I'd suggest a compromise of sorting miniseries by "1XX" instead of "0XX" for sorting issues. Noting that this change would have to be implemented on every programming list page, which largely use the Season column with the [season][episode count] sorting format, not just this one.Nisf (talk) 14:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Nisf: Can you maybe paste here an example table just for easier visualization? Picsovina (talk) 15:15, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Picsovina:Sure, so for this sample table, if you sort by Season, the miniseries 11.22.63 appears higher than The Premise despite having more episodes but the same number of "seasons" because the sorting value is "008":
Title | Seasons |
---|---|
East Los High | 4 seasons, 61 episodes |
11.22.63 | 8 episodes |
The Path | 3 seasons, 36 episodes |
The Premise[a] | 1 season, 5 episodes |
But replacing the sorting value for 11.22.63 with "108" would group it together with the single-season shows and sort it below The Premise.
Title | Seasons |
---|---|
East Los High | 4 seasons, 61 episodes |
11.22.63 | 8 episodes |
The Path | 3 seasons, 36 episodes |
The Premise[a] | 1 season, 5 episodes |
Nisf (talk) 17:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for this. I get it that its more prestigious if a show has more seasons than many episodes during a single season, but from a sorting perspective it would be a nightmare if we used the season number prefix. What do you do if a show reaches 100 episodes or more? Considering this I dont support either of these choices, but in case there would be overwhelming consensus in favour of the season prefix, I would prefer the second option. Picsovina (talk) 20:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @PicsovinaThis has been done before – tables that have shows with more than 100 episodes (or more than 10 seasons) include a 0 placeholder for the extra digit. You can see the table in List of programs broadcast by AMC#Drama for an example (where The Walking Dead and Fear of the Walking Dead both have more than 100 episodes). Nisf (talk) 13:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for this. I get it that its more prestigious if a show has more seasons than many episodes during a single season, but from a sorting perspective it would be a nightmare if we used the season number prefix. What do you do if a show reaches 100 episodes or more? Considering this I dont support either of these choices, but in case there would be overwhelming consensus in favour of the season prefix, I would prefer the second option. Picsovina (talk) 20:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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