Talk:List of FIDE federation player transfers

Kira Zvorykina

The table implies she is now a Bulgarian National, but whilst she went to live there, I'm not sure this is correct, as she has continued to play Russian National Seniors Champs and is still a member of the Russian Chess Fed. Does anyone know any more than this? Brittle heaven 11:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You can see her pre-2002 record here. It was common for Soviet nationals to be listed as Russian on the July 1992 list – no doubt it took some time in those days to update everyone's federation correctly. She's also listed as Russian on the December 1992 list and I think it's likely that's also an error – she had no FIDE-rated games in 1992. Afterwards she represented Belarus until mid-2000 when she reverted back to Russia. It's definitely correct to say she switched federations from Belarus to Russia, but I think the opposite probably did not happen in reality. Cobblet (talk) 02:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Minev

Nikolay Minev moved from Bulgaria to United States, but then I read that this was for competitive players, and Minev was past that when he moved, so I took him back out. Bubba73 (talk), 02:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Since he did play in Reno and Vegas during the 90s, I think I'll add him back in. Cobblet (talk) 02:21, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Useful

This is a really useful list in light of my recent interest in nationality and flags. Will now be able to do some cross-checking. ChessCreator (talk) 00:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Players who moved as children

I question the value of adding players who were born in one country, and moved to another as a child. In these cases their parents moved, and it was unrelated to the person or their chess playing (in some case they didn't even play before they moved). Perhaps they should at least have a separate section? The most well known player in this category would probably be Hikaru Nakamura, but some less well known ones are Jonathan Sarfati, Puchen Wang, maybe Alfred Flatow, and probably many others. I mean, what is the point of a list of chess players whose parents moved? Peter Ballard (talk) 04:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

List of nationality transfers in sport says "Not included in this list are: [...] Players who represented the country they moved to in childhood". Sophia91 (talk) 18:36, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

unclear concept of nationality

I made some changes, removed obvious errors, double entries. But what came up to my mind is the exact purpose of the article. It is often unclear with the historic players what is meant with "nationality", ethnic categories or what kind of "transfer" actually took place. --DaQuirin (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this page should list federation transfers: e.g. Anish Giri Russia → Netherlands, and not Russia, Japan → Netherlands as currently shown, because he never played for Japan; same thing for Nakamura, who was born in Japan but never played under its flag, and many other players.

Article's title

Shouldn't it be renamed to "Nationality transfers in chess"? --Adûnâi (talk) 22:06, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Players who returned to their original federations

As far as I can tell, for players who switched back to their original federations (e.g. Caruana, Shirov), only the first move is listed, not the return. Should we add those? Cobblet (talk) 00:30, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Good question, I don't have an answer. I think the article was patterned after one for a different sport although I don't recall which one that may have been, maybe something in Category:Change of nationality in sport. If those pages have a convention and we can figure out what it is, we could follow suit. Quale (talk) 05:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm about to add Aronian to the list, and I have to say that not listing the return move looks really odd – I had no idea he represented Germany for about six months in 2003–2004 until I started mining FIDE's archives. Cobblet (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Since returning to the original federation is certainly a nationality transfer, listing seems sensible. Quale (talk) 01:22, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Year of transfer

It would be a lot of work to add this data now, but this article would be a lot more informative if it listed the year the transfer occurred. This would also help with players who have transferred more than once. Quale (talk) 08:45, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Ernesto Inarkiev

The Wikipedia article about him says that he was born in Kyrgyzstan and moved to Russia in 2000, but the FIDE transfer list that we cite says that in 2000, he changed federations from UZB to RUS. Is one of these wrong? Bruce leverett (talk) 14:06, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

FIDE's list of transfers is wrong. His federation was listed as Kyrgyzstan in October 2000 and Russia in January 2001. Cobblet (talk) 14:46, 16 August 2022 (UTC)