Talk:Lantern Festival/Archive 1

Archive 1

Dates

Any chance we could have a list of dates for recent/upcoming years? --Spudtater 14:35, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

The dates are on a lunar calendar - which cycles every 12 years. But I will try to post later. Phreakster 1998 01:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Content Change Jan 21st

The Jan 21st revision completely changes the text of the body article without citing any sources. The new text also seems to be identical to the article from http://www.chinavoc.com/festivals/lantern.htm. L4ck 0f 54n17y (talk) 04:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

should the f in festival be capitilized

should the f in festival be capitilized? is it a proper noun? Bawolff 08:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW theres a thing in there about chese, is that true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.169.3.4 (talk) 20:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem

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兔子灯?

Does 兔子灯 really mean "paper lantern" like the article says? I ask because as far as I can tell it seems like a specific type of rabbit lantern... I know rabbit lanterns are a popular kind, at least some places, but wouldn't something like 纸灯笼 be a more literal translation of paper lantern? Indeterminate (talk) 21:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merger from Page1 Chap Goh Meh

The page of the topic Chap Goh Meh should be moved to merged with this topic of Lantern Festival, may be under the sub-topic of "Chap Goh Mei Festival in Malaysia and Singapore" as both are the subject and same festival but with different name in different country. 20 March 2010.

Sounds good. Squeeish (talk) 10:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The term "Chap Goh Meh" or "Chap Goh Mei" doesn't appear in the article at all! The term is widely used in Malaysia and Singapore to refer to the 15th day of the Chinese New Year. Rainjar (talk)

Yuanxiao

I attempted to fix the "Yuanxiao" section for inconsistent formatting, grammar, and spelling; however, it seems fairly unnecessary for several reasons:

1. It is unsourced. However, so is the rest of the article.
2. It is fragmented and aimless, similar to a wiki article stub.
3. It provides little, if any, information that the rest of the article does not already mention.
4. It is placed at an awkward position in the article.

Therefore, I propose that this section be removed. Luolimao (talk) 22:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Disagree. While your comments seem sound, they point out relatively minor matters. If you knew the section to be incorrect, such as a section on bakery in an article on astronomy, that would imo justify deletion, but if you knew the section to be incorrect in some other way it would require correction. In my opinion, under the circumstances you outline, it would be a far more positive approach to consider the section as if it were a "stub", i.e. something wanting improvement, rather than something requiring draconian censure. Stripping out all that is not perfect would impoverish wikipedia immeasurably. LookingGlass (talk) 10:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I made some changes. Most were minor, to clarify the links etc to the historically celebrated Japanese New Year. However I have also moved the "Yuanxiao" section, as it refers to an old custom into the Early Practices section. This then necessitated some other rearrangement as the last paragraph of this section was a description of current practices. I moved that into the section 6th century and afterwards. I deleted the unsourced and out of place reference to the Lantern Festival originating in Brazil, as Brazil was founded at least 400 years later, in 1500, made some other minor changes to grammar etc., and requested some inline references for the origins of the good luck messages LookingGlass (talk) 12:09, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Origin Legends and References

The article states that the Lantern Festival had already gained great significance as early as the Western Han Dynasty circa 200 BCE. Granted there are a number of origin legends associated with the Lantern Festival, which all contribute to the rich history of the festival and warrant mention. However, the article could be improved by providing additional guidance on which origin stories are more or less plausible, and by ordering them chronologically to demonstrate how the legends evolved over time and in specific historical and cultural contexts. For example, the Jade Emperor legend seems more tenable because the mythology and folklore of the Jade Emperor dates back to the Xia Dynasty circa 2000 BCE, thus predating the raise of the festival and providing preexisting fodder material which could be built upon and incorporated into a new legend. This origin story should come first (although it is possible that resurgence of interest in the Jade Emperor during the much later Song dynasty may have elaborated on the role of the Jade Emperor in the Lantern Festival narrative). However, other origin stories included in the article are anachronistic. For example, the reign of Ming and the spread of Buddhism in China date to the first century AD, well after the festival had already been widely celebrated. Although this legend cannot be the origin of the festival, it does demonstrate how the narrative behind the festival changed over time and how the story of the festival was strongly influenced by the growth of buddhism. Another example is the story of Dongfang Shuo and Yuan Xiao. Dongfang Shuo was born circa 160 BCE and does not enter the historical record until 90 BCE (e.g. Records of the Grand Historian, 史記 Shǐjì). Both of these examples post-date the 200 BCE mark, by which time the festival had already gained immense cultural significance. Additionally, the article is thinly sources and a number of the references are weak. Reference 1 is ideal as a scholarly book. References 15 (www.wollombismallfarmsfair.com.au), 14 (Chinatraveldesigner.com), 5 (Birmingham Chinese Festival Association) are hardly authoritative sources. The article could be improved by providing more specific dating references and including citations for more academic and historical sources and original source documents – e.g. The primary historical references for Dongfang Shuo include sources such as The Records of the Grand Historian (c. 91 BCE). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:302:D154:79A0:8DAF:D6BE:1F32:BCC2 (talk) 05:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)