Talk:Lagos/Archive 2

The Former "Municipality of Lagos"

When was the municipality officially disbanded, and is there maps of the old boundaries anyone could provide? What was the historic population of this city. There needs to be more information on this. In fact, many former municipalities have there own page, but it would be enough to simply flesh this out a bit more in this existing article. --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Lagos population...

How can the city be 13 million while the Urban area is 7 million?Is 13 million the metropolitan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sega31098 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

August 2009 Edits

Hi Wikipedia Editors. This is Contimm. Please read the below regarding my recent edits to the Lagos page. STOP undoing my revisions, or I will report you to Wikipedia. The following refers to edits also made on the Abuja page: Whilst I appreciate your concern for the Lagos and Abuja pages, if you actually took the time to see my edits, you would see that I removed NO INFORMATION and NO PHOTOS from the page. I removed the dead hyperlinks because they are tacky. If you hyperlink something for which a page does not exist AND you do not take the initiative to start a page, then you are not doing Wikipedia a service. Further, pictures of privately owned apartment blocks (Abuja and Lagos articles) and a grainy picture of the back of someone's head at a Lagos lounge are PRIVATE pictures, and not at all indicative of the cities themselves. My resize of some of the pics related to their disproportionate size vis-a-vis the blocks of texts they sat next to. In addition, I added certain photos (like the Abuja Residential Duplex) to the photo gallery in the article because it did not correspond to any text in the article. Please, do NOT try and tell me not to "undo" the hard work of others. You might be interested to know that I have personally contributed a substantial amount of time to both the Lagos and Abuja articles, albeit before I signed up for a username. Not only did I not remove anyone's text, but I went to specific pains to leave intact other people's pictures if they were mildly appropriate. I will reinstate my revisions, and you should be forewarned not to undo them without valid reason. I look forward to an intelligent response if you have one to offer.

Sincerely,

Contimm (talk) 07:21, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Administration

Although the article discusses the administrative divisions of Lagos in it, I would like if the opening box would also contain the chief administrative official(that being the Governor along with his deputy). I don't know how to do it, that's why I make this request. Thanks. Borninbronx10 (talk) 11:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Collage

Can someone please insert a collage image showing the skyline and a bunch of significant sites? Its standard practice for a country's capital or largest city.--RM (Be my friend) 00:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Education

In the Education section, it used to say "Lagos is home to several secondary schools, universities and other vocational institutions that are either operated by the government or private entities." Now "several" has been replaced with "seven." Really? I'm pretty sure there are more than seven schools in Lagos. I think it might be vandalism. Can someone verify? Marcipangris (talk) 19:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Lagos population

The metro popultation of Lagos is 15.5 million. People are erasing my revisions and I know what i'm doing. I'm a Nigerian. So i'm pretty sure it's 15 millon, ao please stop erasing my revisions

  Glots  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glots (talk • contribs) 03:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC) 

The burden of evidence lies on you to provide a reliable verifiable source for any addition you make to Wikipedia articles. As long as you add unsourced material into articles, your additions will be reverted. Please provide a reliable source for your addition. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 10:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Map caption

The caption below the second map (country map) is wrong. probably something to do with the template, since the caption only shows up once in the source. Does anyone know how to fix this? 208.65.175.197 (talk) 17:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Lagos has a population of 17 million according to http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/index.php?page=subpage&spid=12&mnu=null —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.76.62.65 (talk) 14:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Ferries

Many routes are expected to get on-board in 1Q.

What the hell does that mean? Is it even in English? Skinsmoke (talk) 01:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Population

Reading the talk page, I see this has been an issue before. Apparently still is, because the header has 15 million and the infobox bit under 8 million. Nothing is mentioned about any urban areas. 85.217.40.33 (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, the page quotes that Lagos is the third largest city in Africa after Cairo and Kinshasa. The page for Kinshasa says that Kinshasa is the third largest city too. Which is right? In addition, the quoted population of Lagos is much higher than the quoted population of Cairo, despite supposedly being more populous. Would it be possible for someone to get the most accurate/official population figures to clear up the issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeathVapour (talk • contribs) 20:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Most populated city in Africa?

According to the page, Lagos has a population of 7,937,932 and is the second most populated city in Africa after Cairo. But according to it's page, Cairo has a population 6,758,581 and is the most populated city in Africa. Two choices : a)Lagos is the most populated city. b)Cairo's population is mistaken — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.231.187.67 (talk) 19:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for raising this discussion. According to List of metropolitan areas by population Cairo's metropolitan area population is 14,450,000. The largest in Africa claim for Cairo is cited, see here. Could you provide an alternative source? AgadaUrbanit (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Quick google provided following sources:

• Yannis Pitsiladis (2007). East African running: toward a cross-disciplinary perspective. Taylor & Francis. p. 24. ISBN 978-0-415-37787-4. Retrieved 26 December 2011. Cairo is the biggest city in Africa, home to 9.2 million people
• Ashok K. Dutt (2003). Challenges to Asian urbanization in the 21st century. Springer. p. 22. ISBN 978-1-4020-1576-2. Retrieved 26 December 2011. Lagos will be the 3rd most populous city (with a population of 21 million) in 2010 and will thus overtake Cairo as the largest city in Africa.

We're in the end of 2011, but we'd need a clear reference. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 20:18, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Referencing

Referencing is in need of serious work if this expects to pass GA. Quick examples:

• Last paragraph of #History is uncited  Done User:Otelemuyen
• #The Islands of Lagos is nearly entirely uncited (only one reference). Also, the section should be Island of Lagos Done User:Otelemuyen
• #Administration and demographics needs more than one reference (excluding the chart) Done User:Otelemuyen
• #Transport almost entirely uncited Done User:Otelemuyen

Those are just a few. I considered quick failing the nom, but it's a fairly important topic so it deserves a chance to be fixed Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

For the Islands of Lagos section, this seems to be intended as the arguement is that all the sub sections are Islands on their own merit, when combined they form the Islands of Lagos.Otelemuyen ^(talk) 18:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

• I can't find the page right now, but it's preferred to not start sections with "the" unless part of a proper name. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC) Done User:Otelemuyen

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lagos/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Dana boomer (talk · contribs) 16:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'll be reviewing this article for GA status and should have my full review up shortly. Dana boomer (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am going to fail this article's nomination for GA status. The most serious issue is the sourcing, but there are also quite a few other problems:

• There is a significant amount of unsourced information. Statistics, opinions, quotes, etc. need references. This is the biggest issue with the article, and it will take the longest to fix. Examples include the first paragraph of the Lagos Mainland section, the last two paragraphs of the Census data section, the first paragraph of the Economy section and the first paragraph of the Highways section, although there are bits and pieces throughout the article that need referencing.
• 9 dead links (see this tool for details) that leave information virtually unreferenced.
• What makes these references reliable?:
  • #9 - Edo Nation
  • #15 - The Transmitter
  • #18 - Giant Cities of Tiny Islands
  • #26 - Nigerian Muse
  • #31, 32 - OTAL
• Many refs need additional information. All web refs should include a title, publisher and access date at the very least.
• History section is very incomplete and choppy. What time period are we talking about in the first paragraph? When did the city first come into existence as a war camp? Did nothing happen there between 1472 and 1861? Has nothing happened there since 1991? More details and more referencing (the second paragraph is currently unreferenced and gives varying explanations) is needed. For instance, there are links in the See also section to 2006 Abule Egba pipeline explosion and 2006 Atlas Creek pipeline explosion - why not give more detail about these things in the history section and move the links up here? Same with the Treaty of Lagos.
• Economy section could also stand to be expanded - I am surprised to see only three paragraphs for a major population center. Is there any manufacturing? Agriculture around the city? Where is the crude oil coming from that is being shipped from here? Anything in the IT industry? What is the railhead used for? How has the high standard of living been developed and maintained? Where do all of these people work?
• Notable people - NO sources!! What is the criteria for inclusion in this list?
• Census data for Lagos could probably be renamed "Demographics", as this seems to be a more common title for this section, based on looking at other city articles.
• For an article of this size, WP:LEAD recommends 3-4 paragraphs of lead.
• Individual sections should have more than one or two sentences. These very short sections should be combined with other sections or expanded.
• The prose needs a go over... "apartments are blooming up everywhere.", for instance, is not grammatically correct, while "A planned extensive urban rail system running through the Lagos metropolis." is not a complete sentence.
• Standardize to one variety of English - I see both -ization and -isation, for instance.
• Two dab links, Yaba and Iddo.

While I see that the nominator has been doing quite a bit of work on this article, and I applaud their efforts, I am going to fail this article's GA nomination because of the sheer amount of work that is needed. The work on referencing and the expansion of a couple of sections are going to need some significant time and attention, and basic information on the city's history and economy are a must for this article to be successful at GAN. Please take some time to work on the points above, and then renominate at GAN when you feel it meets the WP:Good article criteria. Please let me know if you have any questions, Dana boomer (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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Climate

The discussion about climate is in contradiction with the chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fridooo (talk • contribs) 20:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Timeline of Lagos

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 17:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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Recently I've been adding links in the first few sentences to Nigeria and Africa. I feel that these are useful to people reading the article. Another Wikipedia user keeps reverting my edits, believing that this goes against the Wikipedia policy of Overlinking. I understand why this other user may be concerned, but I feel that they are mistaken in this situation. I fully understand the Overlink policy, and I do not feel that this violates it. I feel this is consistent with nearly every other Wikipedia article about a major city. Please share thoughts, because this person keeps reverting my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiHogan654 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

• @WikiHogan654: You haven't given an example of article where continents are being linked unnecessarily. You claim, you understand the policy of overlink, kindly explain how what you are doing doesn't violate these statements:

"An overlinked article contains an excessive number of links, making it difficult to identify links likely to aid the reader's understanding significantly.

A good question to ask yourself is whether reading the article you're about to link to would help someone understand the article you are linking from. Unless a term is particularly relevant to the context in the article, the following are not usually linked:

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So how does linking Africa to that statement helps the user to understand how Lagos is the largest city in Africa? It's not like you're linking to a list of Africa's largest cities or anything particularly helpful to the statement. If every user goes about linking every single word, the essence of Wikilinks will lose its value, and articles will look crowded with unneeded links.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 12:58, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Jamie, with all due respect, this is not disruptive editing. This is convenience so that people can simply click on relevant articles to learn more information. The overlink policy is clearly intended for irrelevant articles. The article for Paris has links to France and Europe. The article for Sao Paulo has links to Brazil and the Southern Hemisphere. There are dozens more examples that I can find for you, if you'd like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiHogan654 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Here's another example: the article for Sydney has links to Australia and Oceania. WikiHogan654 (talk) 19:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

• You have refused to explain how what you're doing doesn't violate the policy. Apart from the fact that the presence of examples for inappropriate stuffs, doesn't make it right, Paris has no link to Europe in the lead. The part where its population rank within Europe was mentioned, link was made to a list article to European cities, not European continent. Furthermore, "Southern Hemisphere" is not a continent; it's a not-so-popular term for a geographical region, that people might want to check out. Same goes for Oceania. "Africa" is a regular continent, that doesn't need any clarification.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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