Talk:Kukkiwon

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Hello all, my name is Mike and I've recently started working/volunteering at the Kukkiwon. One of my roles is to improve and correct information about the Kukkiwon on Western websites, and being that we all know and love Wikipedia I thought I would start here. I have used wikipedia alot for information but have never edited, can anyone offer me assistance?

Particularly the International Department is keen that the history of the Kukkiwon is uploaded, and that generally more information is posted here. I'm assuming it is ok for an organisation (or member of) to assist in content on its own wiki?

I will be reading all the wiki-how articles to learn the format but would still appreciate any and all assistance...

Many thanks, Mike_asano —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike asano (talk • contribs) 02:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

wish list:

• architecture, if any?
  • One building or several?
• What is the nature of the relationship with the WTF?

Here is a link to the facilities of the Kukkiwon. [1]

The Kukkiwon, founded in 1972, rented out an office for the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) after the WTF was founded in 1973. After two decades, the WTF moved it's office out of the Kukkiwon to a new location in Seoul.

The WTF is basically a tournament organizing committee for all of the WTF Member National Associaitions and Regions, including the Olympics. The WTF only recognizes Kukkiwon Taekwondo. Example, for National, regional and Olympic games, the WTF uses a unique type of sparring competition only found in the Kukkiwon curriculum classified as "Shihap Kyorugi", or in English, "Match Sparring". Therefore, the WTF requires that black belt (Dan holder) competitors must be certified by Kukkiwon as one of the criteria to compete in these events. As of 2006, WTF will hold the 1st World Poomsae Chanpionships, where it will only recognize Kukkiwon Poomsae.

The Kukkiwon is the knowledge base of Taekwondo. Through research, Kukkiwon sets the standard for Taekwondo curriculum, trains and certifies instructors (Sabum), and issues black belt (Dan) certificate to qualified candidates.

The Kukkiwon is also known as the "World Taekwondo Headquarters" and is often confused as being the headquarters of the WTF. This however is incorrect. The WTF and the Kukkiwon are two very sperate organizations, with different officers and staff, with different missions and in different locations.

Logo

Logo looks strange being off-center from the title at the top, and the lavender bar fills the space (which should simply be a bar at the top). Please fix this so that it's standardized as before, thanks. Badagnani 00:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

As I explained to you elsewhere, it's a standard feature of the infobox for displaying logos, though I suppose either method is fine in the absense of another image. Things don't get "fixed" just because you think they're "wrong", but if it bothers you so much you're not incapable of making the change yourself. PC78 00:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If you set the logo using the "img" option rather than the "logo" option, it will display as centred. I have adjusted this. Janggeom (talk) 06:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Confusion between Kukkiwon and WTF

I have reverted the changes made by 76.205.94.175 to the most recent edit by PC78 in order to restore the deletion of the Views needing attribution tag. Although it may be obvious to some practitioners of taekwondo that many people do consider the Kukkiwon and WTF to be the same organization, this fact still needs to be sourced. Even the article on the sky has four references following its statement saying that the sky is blue and why it is blue. --Darren Lee 05:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Kukkiwon edits

Describing Kukkiwon's Dan policy or so-called problems is does not help the reader understand what Kukkiwon is. The original article was very informative before Janggeom vandalized it. Masteralcole (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I invite you to read Wikipedia's definition of vandalism. Please also see the welcome note I have posted on your talk page, and at least read through the Five Pillars introductory article. If, having read these key documents, you still believe that my contributions constitute vandalism according to Wikipedia's rules and policies, you are welcome to report me to Wikipedia's administrators. Thank you. Janggeom (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe there is some confusion as to what is the "role" of the kukkiwon and what is their "policy" referring to promotions. Should it be clarified or broken out into sections/subsections? --ayman (talk) 16:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

This article, as with everything else on Wikipedia, is a work in progress—please feel welcome to add a new section heading or otherwise constructively edit the article (or continue discussion here if you wish). For the time being, role and promotion policy are in the same section because Dan promotions are part of Kukkiwon's role, and because this is only one of many articles I am working on. Be bold. Janggeom (talk) 00:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I think there is a little mistake in here...

Greetings. I have practiced Kukkiwon.style Taekwondo for over 11 years and I have over 17 years of practising Taekwondo.

I passed my 3rd Dan exam last December and I received for it a source material where it was reaffirmed what I've been told for years: that it was the KTA who hosted the first world championship back in 1973.

This article states it was Kukkiwon. I am politely asking for more clarification on this subject. Thanks.Kim Kusanagi (talk) 22:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for your note. Park and Seabourne (1997) state that Kukkiwon hosted the event, but it is possible that they were referring to Kukkiwon as a physical venue rather than as an organisation. Assuming this is a correct interpretation, feel welcome to amend the text of the article and include your reference (please be sure to include a level of detail equivalent to the other references). Thank you. Janggeom (talk) 00:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I won't edit it, as I'm not 100% sure my texts are the absolute final word, and also due to the fact that it indeed took place at Kukkiwon as a physical venue, like you just wrote. So, both accounts could be right, and Park and Seabourne should then clarify. Also, if there's an electronic version of your textbook, feel free to redirect me to it.Kim Kusanagi (talk) 05:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I am not aware of an electronic copy of the Park and Seabourne book, but it should be straightforward to track one down through your local library. The actual text reads, "One year later, the Kukkiwon hosted the first world taekwondo championships with 200 competitors from 17 countries" (Park & Seabourne, 1997, p. 13). Janggeom (talk) 07:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Libraries are seriously lacking contents over here, and they're closed in weekends, which are the days I can go there, but regardless, I'll try to keep track of your contributions.Kim Kusanagi (talk) 15:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Kukkiwon's original name (before it was renamed Kukkiwon) when it was opened in 1972 was "Dae Han Taekwondo Hyop Hae Choong Ahn Dojang" which means "Korea Taekwondo Association Central Gymnasium" The First World Taekwondo Championships was actually hosted by 1. The Ministry of Education. 2. The KTA 3. Presidential Protective Force. 4. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs. 5. Seoul City and 6. The Korean Amature Athletic Association. This is according to the original First World Taekwondo Championships Program Guide 5.25~27, 1973. If you want to learn something about Kukkiwon, it is wise to find out from Kukkiwon members. Masteralcole (talk) 09:49, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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