Talk:Kool-Aid
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editcan someone change lisenced to licensed? thanks, and maybe remove the protection.
Someone needs to add KOOL-AID MUSTACHE in the section with Kool-Aid Smile.
I always figured a Kool-Aid smile WAS a kool-aid mustache. I think whomever wrote that part of the article may have been misinformed.
It would make sense to merge Great Bluedini with Kool-Aid.--Mrath 00:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
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Some have alleged that the drink is intentionally marketed to African-Americans; for example, some commercials, aimed at older consumers, depict African-American families bonding over Kool-Aid.
'Intentionally marketed to" and 'alleged' makes it sound like this is a bad thing, like marketing junk to children. Strikes me as patronising and weird. Also weasel words.
Should this still be a marked as a stub? How much more can you really write about Kool-Aid ? Preisler 22:17, Feb. 7, 2005 (UTC)
high-sugar drink? Aren't there sugar-free versions? RickK ->yes, you should edit tat page to say that there are versions available that include or encourage high amounts of fake sugar.
- You can always add less sugar, I typically use about 2/3 cup instead of a full cup.--RLent 20:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- I use 1/2 cup and twice the flavor packets,.. it was on sale; lawyers is much better, and better for you ;>jamvaru (talk) 18:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Changes worth mentioning:
- Capitalization (Kool-Aid rather than Kool-aid)
- removed "available in the U.S." (it's available in lots of places: at least in Canada, Russia, Brazil, Columbia, Philippines, Venezuela, and Mexico. If there's someplace it's known NOT to be available, it might be worth mentioning.) [It's not available in Britain, or at least I've never seen it on sale or advertised.]
- also in an artificially sweetened, non-sugar version
- fun suicide facts.
- the explanation about "drinking (someone's) Kool-Aid" may be a little convoluted for its own good, but I can't find a more felicitous phrasing at the moment. Your aim will help. -- Someone else 07:03 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)
what is fake sugar?
- Artificial sweetener.
I have an american friend who uses Kool-aid as a synonym for gossip. Is this usual? Tristanb 11:04, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- No. <G> -- Someone else 11:10, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
hahaha, i'll tell her that. She's Mexican (by birth) living in LA. I wonder if it's regional, or her own little thing. thanks. Tristanb
- Coold be local. I dunno, like "coffee-talk" meaning gossip and if you don't drink coffee but Kool-aid instead? Let me know if she has a logical explanation! :) -- Someone else
actually some people do use this term i.e. "why are you in my kool-aid if you don´t know the flavor?" or just "in my Kool-aid" as if someone is in your business. -random person
I have also heard various phrases along the lines of "dipping into my Kool-Aid." Such as "don't dip in my Kool-Aid", "quit dipping in my Kool-Aid", "she dipped in her Kool-Aid", all of which mean to take something from someone such as attention, respect, significant others. Tyler 1:27, 24 Oct 2006
Kool-Aid Man picture
editOkay, guys, which do you think is better? [1] or [2]? It seems a little extreme to put both in... -leigh 11:39, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm going with [1]. -leigh (φθόγγος) 05:55, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
"Old School" Kool-Aid Ads Feature Sullen Kids Looking Hostile
editIn May 2008, Parade Magazine featured a Kool-Aid ad with four black kids. Two of the kids look very threatening and angry. The seated kid has a baseball cap on sideways, and his hand gesture appears to be inviting a person to fight. This advertisement is offensive, and it panders to every negative stereotype of inner city youngsters. It is disgusting that Kool-Aid would be so desperate to make a buck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.145.124 (talk) 17:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- The ad is "Old School" and represents the breakdancing era. The poses were common to that type of dancing, as was the attire. See this picture for an example: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Image:Crew_pic-1-.jpg Also note the "boombox" in the ad. I don't like the ad, myself, but until someone notable rails against it I don't think it deserves mentioning - yet. DeeKenn (talk) 04:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Edits by user:67.117.218.13
editTo 67.117.218.13: I don't mean to offend, but is English your native language? Most of the edits you've made seem to be attempts to "fix" grammar that is already correct. In this case, you've put the Kool-Aid Man in the past tense (using the word "was"), although he is still the mascot and is featured in advertisements to this day. You've also created a wiki link to Kool-Aid Man - but Kool-Aid Man is simply a redirect back to Kool-Aid! Finally, by adding a period after "Kool-Aid Man," you've turned the rest of the sentence into a sentence fragment (it doesn't contain a verb).
Ah, I see (from user:67.117.218.13) that this problem is already known. :( Good lord, how frustrating. -leigh (φθόγγος) 05:52, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
Ice
editWhat about Kool-aid icecubes? I can not seem to find any info about those anywhere. I have a simple recipe for those interested. Jaberwocky6669 19:35, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
- I think you're talking about Fruity Cubes, Sour Cubes, etc. They're on the back of Kool-Aid canisters.--Mr. Kool 20:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC) Mr. Kool
Drinking the Kool-Aid section
editLet me share the following from Seymour M. Hersh, "Watching Lebanon", New Yorker, http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060821fa_fact (posted 14 Aug 2006). (my bolding added):
"Bush’s strongest supporter in Europe continues to be British Prime Minister Tony Blair, but many in Blair’s own Foreign Office, as a former diplomat said, believe that he has “gone out on a particular limb on this”—especially by accepting Bush’s refusal to seek an immediate and total ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah. “Blair stands alone on this,” the former diplomat said. “He knows he’s a lame duck who’s on the way out, but he buys it”—the Bush policy. “He drinks the White House Kool-Aid as much as anybody in Washington.” The crisis will really start at the end of August, the diplomat added, “when the Iranians”—under a United Nations deadline to stop uranium enrichment—“will say no.”"
Andrew
IMHO this section could use some cleaning to bring it to a professional tone.
- Made some reshuffling to make it more readable. Ceplm (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Aside from style, I was interested in the details linked to the Jim Jones mass suicide. They don't sync with the Jim Jones page which describes the poison as "Flavor-Aid" (no flavor mentioned). Perhaps that page is wrong, but if somebody happens to be an authority on the subject (I'm surely not), we could get the two pages to match. Seems I've always heard that the beverage in question was red.
Thoughts?
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(If I recall correctly:) At the "Acid Tests", there were various hangers-on (journalists, cops, groupies) who looked on but didn't participate. If you were asked "Have you drunk the Kool-Aid?", that meant "Are you with us?"
--XyKyWyKy 09:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Edited the article to include a reference to the "Acid Tests"
XyKyWyKy 04:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
HEY! Someone even mentions the Flavor-Aid thing at the bottom of THIS page under Trivia
Ckamaeleon 00:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Maybe it should be noted that this term currently only sees widespread use in political circles? --John R. Barberio talk, contribs 12:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone here dye their hair with Kool-Aid? Mr. Kool 1:51. 5 February 2006 (UTC)
The bit about Ken Kesey is contrary to every other explanation of the etymology of this phrase I have read. Consequently, I'm requesting a source that can authoritatively track "drinking the kool-aid" to the Merry Pranksters--or, indeed, to any date earlier than the mid-1980s. This sounds pretty dubious, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. Making similar edit to Merry Pranksters.
--Craigkbryant 20:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Having waited a week, I am removing the unsourced reference to Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters, and replacing with a web-available source dating the expression to the 1980s and Jonestown.--Craigkbryant 14:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
How about this: "...I begged him not to drink the Kool-Aid...", from The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test (Tom Wolfe), page 278 (published in 1968, concerning events in 1965-66, ten years prior to Jonestown) http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0553380648/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-6185386-3261630# It's not definitive, but neither is any Jonestown source I've seen. XyKyWyKy 00:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Yep, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test well predates the story about mass suicides and the relegation of this point to an incidental line about Kesey's group makes the etymology inaccurate. I will restore it. -- Jez 21:47, 8 December 2006
The bit of trivia about the Jonestown "Kool-Aid" not being Kool-Aid at all but Flavor-Aid appears suspect and I call BS on this. The Jonestown documentary clearly shows boxes of Kool-Aid in the trunk and there is audio evidence of Jones himself referring to Kool-Aid. Either remove all reference to Flavor-Aid or provide references showing this was the case. 203.214.57.86 08:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
None of the Merry Prankster references are supported by the evidence; therefore, I am revising that part of entry so as to not further mislead people. In order to prove this connection you *must* have written, figurative use of "drink the Kool-Aid" or its variants. The quote above from the Wolf book on page 278 conveniently leaves out the surrounding context that shows that the use there is literal and not figurative, and, therefore does not apply. The full quote is about the various actual experiences of people drinking the Kool-Aid LSD mix. The ellipses here are in the original: "There was one girl who was wrestling with God. She was with friends, and I think she was all right after a few hours. There was one man who became completely withdrawn...I want to say catatonic, because we tried to bring him out of it, and could make contact at all...he was sort of a friend of mine, and I had some responsibility fo getting him back to town...he had a previous history of mental hospitals, lack of contact with reality, etc., and when I realized what had happened, I begged him not to drink the Kool-Aid, but he did...and it was very bad. These are the only two people I know of who did have bad experiences, but I'm sure I wasn't in contact with everyone."GrantBarrett (talk) 12:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
J.J.
editWho removed the Kool-Aid and lower-class section? It's rather well-documented that J.J. on Good Times liked that drink. Mike H. That's hot 01:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I remember it. I think some people removed it along with the accusations that Krafts Foods markets to said minorities. If you look in the history, you can find it and put it back in. It's okay by me (although I know nothing about it). JohnJohn 00:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
moved flavors to bottom of page
editIf anyone cares, I moved flavors to the bottom of the page. It's good information; it's just not very interesting prose. JohnJohn 07:24, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
- But it's logically incorrect. The article flows off to in vaguely related trivia, and then back onto topic again. The trivia ought to be at the bottom imho. --kingboyk 15:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- No, the flavors section is a break. Lists are not good reading. Good information; not good reading. If you really want, you can change it. This is the Kool-Aid page. JohnJohn 07:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
How about creating a stub on Kool-Aid flavors? Jez 22:12, 8 December 2006
- No. There's absolutely no reason to create a whole new article when the information can clearly and easily fit here. Also, Wikipedia should have as few lists as possible. Creating an article for the sole purpose of creating a list is a big no-no. Keep it here. --pIrish 23:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Popular amongst African Americans?
editKool Aid is also very popular and beloved in the African American community.Uhh...evidence, please. VarunRajendran
I agree. Maybe if we had some type of statistic supporting this statement, but right now it's just a stereotype. I'm removing it. If anyone objects, we can discuss it further on this page. JohnJohn 04:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Another phrase used widely among African-Americans in urban areas is "all up in the Kool-Aid". This term is used to describe a nosy person." Removed this phrase from the "drinking the Kool-Aid section." It doesn't belong in that section. Also this phrase is not restricted to African Americans, and may not be noteworthy slang. JohnJohn 05:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Watching Freedom Writers today, and noted that the African American character Andre drinks Kool-Aid from his fridge. Aware of the stereotype, I came to this page to see if other instances in popular culture were recorded. Maybe a section on the stereotype would be interesting, as it does seem very prevalent in media that intend to comment on or make a point about racism and racial differences. I am considering creating it.Schmutzigeskind (talk) 19:15, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- JJ on Good Times frequently mentioned drinking Kool Aid.18:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)18:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:40C:8300:1D35:FC04:CCCA:64E3:A58A (talk)
Flavors
editI see that there is a contradiction in the 6 Original Flavors listed here versus those listed on "The History of Kool-Aid"(http://www.hastingsmuseum.org/koolaid/kahistory.htm). Wikipedia lists strawberry, cherry, grape, lemon, orange, root-beer, raspberry. "The History of Kool-Aid" lists strawberry, cherry, lemon-lime, grape, orange and raspberry. Having grown up drinking Kool-Aid and await new flavor releases, I believe that "The History of Kool-Aid" is correct.
--DS —Preceding unsigned comment added by DS for Wiki Edits (talk • contribs) 23:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, Ecto Cooler was never made by Kool Aid. It was a Hi-C flavor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.224.55.227 (talk) 14:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Metaphorical
editBecause of its supposed role in past cult activities, Kool-Aid has also come to acquire a dark reference to the occult, though often in a whimsically humorous context. [citation needed]
More often it's used in reference to brainwashing. I'm not sure what the referent is.Bjones 12:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Colloquially I've seen and heard it used as a metaphor for something (usually statements rather than objects) obviously artificial, fake or falsified. "The readers of this magazine will be able to discern between accurate statements and the Kool-Aid passed by the White House press officers." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.8.152.13 (talk) 13:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It IS available in the UK
editAvavilable from here, since 2001 - http://www.koolaiduk.com/
- No no no. This is a site importing American Kool Aid to order. There are a lot of similar websites that supply candy and food only available in the USA, to UK online customers. To qualify as genuinely available in the UK, it has to be available in mainstream shops. Kraft Europe would have to make it for the UK market. They do not. Consequently I'm changing back the note that Kool Aid is unavailable in the UK. Magic Pickle 00:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- The box in the top right corner describes Kool-Aid's market as worldwide. However, Kraft own website lists major markets: Canada, Mexico, Philippines, Puerto Rico, United States. Reference sighted 13 September 2010: <http://www.kraftfoodscompany.com/Brands/largest-brands/brands-K/kool-aid.aspx>. That hardly constitutes worldwide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.42.210 (talk) 09:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Never heard of Kool-Aid before. Definitely not literally 'world-wide' but any claim on worldwideness should be based on an acceptable source rather than the brand owner's own claim. --91.152.67.177 (talk) 15:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- In the US view the US is the world and US-wide is 'world-wide'. cf, the World Series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.56.79 (talk) 02:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Kool-Aid in the army.
editThere was something I read, I think it was on Kool-Aid website, but now I can't find it. Anyway, it said that a special kind of Kool-Aid packets were sent overseas with a camouflaged Kool-Aid man. It's probably useless information since I can't remember where I found it. Unless someone else knows where.
Mass suicide
editThere are multiple redundant references to the mass suicide that should be consolidated and refined.
Flavor
editwhat is tamarindo supposed to taste like?
Effects of dyes
edit86.13.229.199 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) has been making certain claims on the effect of dyes in kool-aid (and some foods). Are there any reliable sources to back up such claims? Andjam 23:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I suppose one of us could try, of course. :)
- I removed the side effects section due to lack of citations and incorrect information. For example there is no FDA Blue #5. The FDA regulates food coloring and the only blues available are FD&C Blue #1 and FD&C Blue #2. DeeKenn 15:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- It would be better to include the side-effects section but simply advise users to look up individual ingredients themselves. Alternatively, an ingredient list could be provided, with links to the relevant wikipedia pages. ;>jamvaru (talk) 18:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Added
editI Added A Picture & Some Minor Info on a supposed parody/spin-off of Kool-Aid, Called Quench-Aid.
Bill 0' Reilly !
editDid you know that Bill 0' Reilly says that if "you" are a liberal, and/or disagree with him that "you" drink Kool Aid ?! Was going to place it when I saw the "View Source" page which means that it cannot be edited. 205.240.144.220 01:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Why is this page protected ? 205.240.144.220 01:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Because it is primarily an advertising / self-publicity page, like much of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.56.79 (talk) 02:46, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:KoolAidLogo.png
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Someone add this
editThe product mascot of Kool-Aid is a gigantic anthropomorphic pitcher filled with some kind of anonymous red liquid (Maybe it's drugs, who knows?) that seemingly at random bursts through walls with complete disregard for human life, causing countless thousands of dollars in property damage. He then chuckles and utters his thought-terminating catchphrase 'Oh Yeah!'. He has yet to be apprehended, so if you know anything about the wherabouts of this wanted fugitive, please call 1-800-555-KOOL or notify your local authorities, and consider him armed and very dangerous. Maddie was here 21:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to round things out, I have a "Kool-Aid Kid's Trivia Game" [1985] in a square box with a fold out [4 times the packing size] board game which I don't see mentioned in the article. dan
Side Effects?
editRegarding the "Side Effects" paragraph of the "Other Uses" section.
There appears to be no such food coloring as FDA Blue #5. In fact, there are NO colors with an "FDA" prefix. The correct prefix for colors that are certified by the Food and Drug Administration under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act is "FD&C".
The only blue colors currently approved for use in foods are FD&C Blue #1 and FD&C Blue #2.
There have, in the past, been other blue colorings that are no longer approved by the FDA, but none of them are FD&C Blue #5.
The only references I have been able to find to FD&C Blue #5 or FDA Blue #5 are, in fact, in reference to this particular effect of Kool-Aid. None of these references are from Kraft Foods, the FDA or another reliable source.
Consequently, I would consider the validity of this "side effect" to be dubious at best. Visiluna 13:07, 2007-07-09 (CDT)
Soft Drinks
editI don't think I've ever heard Kool-Aid referred to as a soft drink. Yes, I'm aware that early in its history it was referred to as such, but soft drink has evolved to mean something different. At the very least it should read instant soft drink mix, although I still maintain the use of soft drink to be antiquated in this sense.
Just my envelope packaged concentrated powder opinion. DeeKenn 14:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ha! I was in the supermarket and the individual packets were on sale. What was labeled on the package? Soft Drink. Well, ain't I the one gettin' an education! DeeKenn 04:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be made a bit clearer that it is some powder you mix with water, if that's what it is. I don't know this drink and I certainly can't tell from this article what it really is. Instead I see lengthy lists of flavors. This article looks very advertisement-ish to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.205.216.123 (talk) 08:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Some Errata
edit"Gerard" Perkins was not involved in inventing Kool-Aid. Please take this out. The original 6 flavors did not include "Lemon", instead "Lemon-Lime". Stephen Spady 66.189.249.179 —Preceding comment was added at 06:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Bursts
editWhat, no mention of bursts? Those things are good, as they have a proper mix of flavorants added. Homemade Kool-aid uses gross table sugar and I hate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
editIt appears that this page is a bit prone to vandalisation. Can someone confirm the existence of the Other flavors worldwide? I'm having a hard time believing them. If this isn't done in about a week then I'm deleting them. Bradkoch2007 (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Kool-Aid/Kool-Ade
editWhen was the name switched? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.140.67.10 (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't know, but the explanation of why is BS. Gatorade, Powerade, etc. still use the "ade" suffix and do not have or claim juice content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.219.78 (talk) 23:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
If anything, I believe that Gatorade was forced to change from "Gator-Aid" because it didn't supply adequate health benefits/juice content. This is opposite of the dubious Koolade to Kool-Aid claim... as it is uncited and makes no sense, somebody should probably remove the explanation. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 12:02, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
As per Kraft Foods Media Helpline "When Kool-Aid was first introduced by Edwin Perkins in 1927 he spelled the name Kool-Ade. Perkins changed the name to Kool-Aid in about 1931." —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrFancypants2010 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Other flavors worldwide
editThis section is currently mis-labeled, I believe. If you follow the link (footnote 6), it lists all of those flavors as EITHER past flavors, or flavors available elsewhere. But while the original distinguishes between the two, the article does not. So for example, we say that purplesaurus rex is available elsewhere, but the original cited page only shows it to be a past flavor. I'd fix it, but I always just screw up the tables. Llamabr (talk) 18:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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Please note - the Trademark for Kool-Aid is NOT generic. You can see for yourself by searching TESS at the US Patent & Trademark website: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=13ec3b.1.1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.110.195.114 (talk) 18:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism?
editThe article says it's used for dyeing Fabric and Yarn and as a Hair Dye. Is this true? -- ReluctantPhilosopher (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.30.235.62 (talk) 14:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- It is 'true' that it is (or at least was) used as a hair dye/hair coloring by many in the "punk" (and perhaps later grunge) movements, but it is unsourced and has been unsourced for a while. So I am removing it per WP:V: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. "
- The statement about coloring yarn is sourced to knitty.com. I have not reviewed the site to determine whether or not the site meets our guidelines, but I suspect not.-- The Red Pen of Doom 14:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Why was the whole section on uses of Kool-aid removed? Kool-Aid is in fact used for dyeing protein fibers such as wool yarn and roving. A basic google search for "dyeing yarn with kool-aid" will return multiple articles, tutorials, how to videos, etc. There are kool-aid dyeing instructions in "Teach Yourself VISUALLY Hand-Dyeing" by Barbara Parry. Even if there's a disagreement as to whether to link to a color palette showing which flavors create which colors, the basic information that it can be used as a dye should be included. MinervaZee (talk) 18:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
African American Racism
editThere is a picture of a kool-aid pitcher with Obama's facial features on it that was intended for the cult reference but then a moderator rejected it because he thought it was racist because of Kool-Aid being associated with poor African Americans. is that moderator correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.120.96.126 (talk) 01:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Split
editAs it stands now, the "Drinking the Kool-Aid" section makes up a decent percentage of this article, even though in all honesty it has little to do with the actual brand that the article is about. I think it would probably make more sense to break this section into its own article and just add a hatnote (and perhaps mini-summary) to the current one. This would also get rid of the problem of undue weight. Joshdboz (talk) 23:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
2008 election
editCan we get a mention of how this entered political jargon in the 2008 election?--Metallurgist (talk) 04:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Slang
editThere should be a mention of slang usage. In early 1983, Casey Watson coined the classic phrase "Why you all up in my Kool-Aid when you don't know the flavor?!" One of the most widely-used phrases of the past two decades, Watson should be applauded for his ingenuity of language.
Ingredients
editThere is no information in the article on what this is made of.
Somebody please post a list of ingredients.
grape flavor = methyl anthranilate, linked page mentions Kool-Aid but that has been removed from this article.
apple flavor = ethyl-2-methyl butrate
etc QuentinUK (talk) 14:09, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- The article is highly misleading about the nature of this "drink". There is nothing natural in there, the powder is purely chemical, synthetic flavors. The article makes it seem that the inventor mixed some fruits and somehow made it possible that these are in the powder as "extracts". This is deceit.
- I think you are misreading the article. I don't think it gives the impression that Kool-Aid is made from real fruit anywhere. (However, even if it were made from fruit, it would still be purely chemicals ... all things are chemicals.) Deli nk (talk) 22:12, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
- The article is highly misleading about the nature of this "drink". There is nothing natural in there, the powder is purely chemical, synthetic flavors. The article makes it seem that the inventor mixed some fruits and somehow made it possible that these are in the powder as "extracts". This is deceit.
Mark Henry?
editWhat exactly does he have to do with Kool-Aid? His wiki has no mentions of Kool-Aid whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SlamBurger (talk • contribs) 00:24, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Please edit the description of the flavor "great blueberry" to "great bluedini" in the 'Other flavors worldwide or previously available' section, as that is the actual marketed name of the product. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairdoohell (talk • contribs) 04:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Found some more flavors in my storage!
editYou stated: - Ice Blue Raspberry Lemonade
but forgot: - Lemon Ice - Arctic Green Apple
from the same series.
Other flavors I have in stock: - Raspberry Reaction - Watermelon Cherry - Changin' Cherry - Berry Blue - Swirlin' Strawberry Starfruit - Blastin' Berry Cherry - Wild Watermelon Kiwi - Watermelon Kiwi - Black Cherry
Would be nice if someone can add them in alphabetic order. Greetings, Tim Thiele, de.wiki.x.io --91.21.103.186 (talk) 23:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Not descriptive enough
editI have a major gripe about this article: I don't think it sufficiently describes what Kool-Aid actually is. "Flavoured drink mix" says nothing to me, and it doesn't even have a piped link to an article of its own. I'm in the UK and, after reading the article, I'm still none the wiser as to what this stuff is. What exactly are the ingredients? Is it a powder? Liquid? Soft drink? Is it sold in sachets? Bottles? Cans? In general, how do people drink it? At least get some photos on here so that us non-North American residents don't have to go searching beyond the article for a proper description. In fact, a search on Google Images didn't even enlighten me! All I've seen is the packaging, a logo, and that damn mascot. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:31, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
In case you still want to know... Kool-aid is usually sold in powder form, in either packets or small tubs. The drink is prepared by mixing the powder with sugar and water (typically by the pitcher-full). The drink is then refrigerated and later served. Additionally, there are some sugar-free varieties. Kool-aid is/was also sold as single-serving packets designed to be poured into bottled water, as small plastic bottles with pre-mixed drink, or as novelties (ice cream, fizzing tablets, etc.). I hope this brief explanation helped you in gaining knowledge on the subject, although I'm not sure how it could be worked into the article... The 'invention' section actually mentions that it's a powder, although it's in the past tense and that information should probably be included in the intro somewhere. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 03:59, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. That's answered all of my questions. Regarding how to incorporate it within the article, I would actually suggest to simply use what you just wrote—word for word. I found it to be clear, straight to the point and informative. If nobody else does so for a while, I'll make the edit myself and remove the {{Confusing}} tag from the article. A photo of the powder itself (preferably alongside an already-made glass of the stuff) still wouldn't go amiss, however.. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- It's been a while now, so I've added the above description word-for-word into a new section of the article. In which case, I'm done watching this page. Best of luck to all future editors. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hello, this is 67.222.201.194, currently using a different computer. Glad to see what I wrote was understandable and helpful to you. c: 129.93.5.139 (talk) 19:06, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
A New Form of Vandalism?!
editI carelessly typed in "Kool Aid" (without the hyphen) and was redirected to a page with its "History" section reads as follows:
Kool-Aid was invented by Edwin Perkins in Hastings, Nebraska, United States. All of his experiments took place in his mother's kitchen.[1] Its predecessor was a liquid concentrate called Fruit Smack. To reduce shipping costs, in 1927, Perkins discovered a way to remove the liquid from Fruit Smack, leaving only a powder. This powder was named Kool-Aid. Perkins moved his production to Chicago in 1931 and Kool-Aid was sold to General Foods in 1953.[2] Hastings still celebrates a yearly summer festival called Kool-Aid Days on the second weekend in August, in honor of their city's claim to fame. Kool-Aid is known as Nebraska's official soft drink.[3][4] Kool-aid was also the best drink of ever because of its tasty and colorful flavors, i cant wait to get home and drink some more of it, but we are out of sugar so i cant , aww thats sad , someone please buy me some sugar so i can have soem Kool-aid
Notice the sentence that I've turned it into italics? That sentence was NOT there when I later typed in, correctly, "Kool-Aid" (with the hyphen)!
How the heck did they do it? And more importantly, can someone remove it please?
Nick O'Sea (talk) 09:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well... it actually had been removed. Just that I forgot to reload the page! Nick O'Sea (talk) 09:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Dat vandalism
editIf you take a look at the history page, it is filled with vandalism from IP addresses, and the reversions thereof. Perhaps we could get the page protected so that only registered users can edit it? --BurritoBazooka (talk) 00:09, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Done ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks :) --BurritoBazooka (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Sugar Free
editDo they still make sugar-free Kool-Aid? I can't find it any more. If not, should that be on the page?207.155.75.137 (talk) 16:30, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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In 1988 General Foods decided to begin test marketing Kool Aid Kool Pops in two or three regional markets in the U.S. Grey Advertising, GF's agency of record for Kool Aid, was enlisted to develop TV commercials to be shown to test audiences and aired in the test markets. The agency took an old-school approach, using cel animation to create Kool Aid Kool Pop characters who lived in the freezer, upstairs from Mr. Kool Aid Man. There were Cherry, Grape and Tropical Punch, and each box included a toy surprise. The music and lyrics for the commercial, which was entirely sung except for the announcer part at the end, were developed by a creative team at the agency and Jim Farmer, a composer in New York. The cel animation and final commercial were produced by Streamline Productions in New York. Kool Aid Kool Pops never caught on, so the product and the TV commercial never went national. Contributor802 (talk) 03:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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IvanSt (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC) I would like to request that the kool-aid page be edited, because there is wrong information in it. Kool-Aid was actually invented in Doctor Edwin Perkins' pharmacy in HENDLEY, Nebraska (not Hastings), and only later moved to Hastings.
So the local story goes Doc Perkins powdered it because he was tired of bottles falling off the shelf and breaking.
Hendley is 12 miles down the road from my hometown, and is a part of my community. Proper due should be given.
Kent Steinke Beaver City, Nebraska
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 15:25, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Source:
- "The Kool-Aid Story". www.adamshistory.org. Adams County Nebraska Historical Society.
The labels read Manufactured by Perkins Products Co., Hendley, Nebr.
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In the In popular culture section, please change [citation needed] to the following citation:
- Cantor, Jay (October 19, 1968). "The Electric Kool' Aid Acid Test". www.thecrimson.com. The Harvard Crimson. Retrieved 4 June 2018. 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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In the External links section please change
- History of Kool-Aid from a museum in Hastings, Nebraska
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- The Kool-Aid Story, Adams County Nebraska Historical Society
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remove protection
editsoon. at 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44C8:4220:786:B001:6EF5:4C8C:8B9A (talk) 23:37, 10 November 2021 (UTC)