Talk:Klamath River

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 August 2021 and 25 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Gcohen02, Dakotamargolis.

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Dick Cheney

Hi, While browsing on a different subject, I came across this interesting article in The Washington Post [1], going into detail about how Dick Cheney exerted power to reverse the environmental flow decision. I've put it into the text, but being new to all this editing stuff, it shows up as a link not a reference as I don't yet know how to put a reference in! If someone could teach me how to do this it would be a nice thing to do! Thanks, Mondegreen de plume (talk) 01:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in the river and for your input. If you look at the article in edit mode, you'll see how the "cite" templates work. You can simply imitate the form of the two citations directly below that of the one you are trying to add. A more complete explanation of the templates is at WP:CIT. In this article, be sure to stick with the "cite" family rather than using the "citation" family or other formats since the "cite" family is used for all of the other refs in this article. Hope this helps. Finetooth (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Copied

Hi, some content was moved to Un-Dam the Klamath from the Salmon controversy and proposed dam removal section. Xicanx (talk) 16:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

New subheading and new info added to History section

Hi we are working on a class project and are incorporating a lot more about the klamath basin tribes and their historical relationship with US government and agencies and modern day population and stewardship. We are going to integrate it into history and add a new section. All of our sources should be peer reviewed/reliable and our text will be cited. gcohen02 (talk) 12:52, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Dams

Recent news suggests all the dams are removed and the river "runs free". But maps suggest there still at least 2 dams, such as the one for Klamath Lake. Dam I am confused. -- GreenC 18:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sources are all saying the river is running free now; the USA Today story mentions: The final deconstruction, including some remaining riverside infrastructure, is slated to be completed by the end of September. Maybe the maps are just reflecting the remaining infrastructure? Or maybe the maps haven't been updated? Schazjmd (talk) 18:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I will update the map. There are still two dams on the river (Link River and Keno) and there are no plans to demolish those. The four dams downstream of Keno have been removed. Shannon [ Talk ] 23:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Apparently it's not a 'free' river, except in sensationalist press, and promotional dam removal campaigns. Because what will they say when/if those other two dams are removed? An "even more free" river? A river free of dams is a free river, in this context. Just because a source says something doesn't mean we are obligated to blindly repeat. -- GreenC 21:42, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Where does the river start (and how many dams has it ever had)?

This article, and the supplemental article Course of the Klamath River, both say that the river starts at Upper Klamath Lake, which would make the Link River and Lake Ewauna part of the river's course. But neither article gives a citation for this claim. I would personally consider the Link River and Lake Ewauna to be separate bodies of water, and would think of Lake Ewauna as the source of the Klamath instead. Incidentally, the articles for the Link River and Lake Ewauna both agree with this interpretation. If sources generally treat Klamath Lake as the source, then so be it, but either way, could we find some good citations for this?

Clarifying this point would affect this article's language about "the river's six dams"—if the Klamath starts at Klamath Lake, then it makes sense to consider the Link River Dam a sixth dam (in addition to the Keno Dam and the four that were just removed). But if the Klamath starts at Lake Ewauna, then the Link River Dam belongs to a completely different body of water, and the Klamath River only has (or has ever had) five dams. — Athelwulf ^[T]/_[C] 22:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

This got me curious and I looked up some old USGS topo maps of the area. In the 1890s "Link River" connected upper Klamath Lake to Lake Ewauna, a small natural lake near Linkville (now Klamath Falls). After the construction of Keno Dam, the entire stretch of river up to Klamath Falls was turned into a reservoir called "Lake Ewauna". However, the USGS still considers the beginning of the Klamath River to be near the Highway 140 bridge at Klamath Falls, which would have been the natural outlet of Lake Ewauna, 18 miles upstream from Keno Dam. Anyways, I'll get around to finding sources for this and correcting the text. I have been meaning to make some large scale revisions to this article, just haven't had the time. Shannon [ Talk ] 03:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)