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Requested move 27 November 2024

Kabaddi World Cup (standard style) → Kabaddi World Cup – This the only official world cup authorised by the international federation of the sport. The others are unofficial versions hosted in unofficial capacities. There should be a separate disambiguation page for the others. Kabaddi World Cup should feature the actual World Cup. OCDD (talk) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JJP_Master (she/they) 00:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Primary topic grabs are, by definition, not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 21:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

All three listed topics are international competitions and are presumably considered official by those who organise them. The current title is already ambiguous, since there are two Kabaddi World Cups that are standard style – the other one being the World Cup Kabaddi (for which I just opened an RM). I suggest Kabaddi World Cup (standard style) should be moved to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support: Among the three subjects, this one does seem to be the most popular with readers, per page views, so maybe the nominator has the right idea. Recent moves make it necessary to track multiple names per topic. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 07:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Punjabi Kabaddi is a variant of Kabaddi and is quite different from the standard Kabaddi which is the most popular and international standard. All the international games including Asian Games, domestic tournaments like the Pro Kabaddi League are played in the standard format. So, it makes sense to have the standard format as Kabaddi World Cup and keep the circle style as is. — Manthara^talk 14:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support: The “standard style” kabaddi and the “standard style” world cup is the only official kabaddi and worldcup. The world cup is organised by the world governing body International Kabaddi Federation. The other types of kabaddi exist but not in official capacity. The other world cup is organised by a state government in unofficial capacity. The official world cup should not use brackets and have an unclear status because other people have decided to host tournaments. The official world cup remains the one that the official federation hosts. OCDD (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

As the original proposer of the move, you should not express support for your own proposal, per WP:RMCOMMENT. Your support is implied, so I have struck through the bolded word in your comment. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Thoughts on move to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation)? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

At this point, per my comment of 07:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC) above, I don't think it's necessary to add the "International Kabaddi Federation" disambiguator (and no one else has expressed a preference for that). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

• Move to Kabaddi World Cup (IKF) per MOS:ACRODAB. See my comments at Talk:World Cup Kabaddi. Unrelated standard style Kabaddi events known as World Cup are organized by World Kabaddi, and therefore the current title of this article is ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• Help me understand what makes International Kabaddi Federation any more "official" than Government of Punjab, India or World Kabaddi Federation? Is one organization more intrinsically more "official" versus unofficial, outside of RS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiggerjay (talk • contribs) 04:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

  IKF is recognised by Olympic Council of Asia and (as far as I understand) organises Kabaddi at the Asian Indoor & Martial Arts Games. As OCA itself is recognised by IOC, it gives IKF more legitimacy than the several other governing bodies that claim to govern Kabaddi, which remain unrecognised by any organisation of authority. "Official" was wrong terminology used by the editor. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 19:18, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

  Government of Punjab is a government, not a sports governing body. It hosts these competitions to promote participation. The recognized governing body of the sport is only IKF. They are the ones hosting the official competitions in terms of recognised global capacity. The only other world cup of Kabaddi is hosted by the Punjab government. Though the state government shouldn’t be naming it world cup in the first place. The world cup is hosted and recognised by the global governing body which is IKF. Apart from that standard style kabaddi is the only globally recognised format. The circle style is more local and does not extend to the sport on a global level. Thus, the “standard style Kabaddi World Cup” is the actual recognised world cup that is hosted by the main authority, is participated in by a number of countries, and follows the main type of kabaddi. All major kabaddi events and multi-sports event follow this format. Interference from non recognised bodies has created unnecessary confusion in the sport. The world cup page should be about the actual world cup instead of it disambiguating into non-recognised random tournaments. Putting IKF in the brackets as someone suggested makes no sense either. There is only one recognised governing body for kabaddi which is IKF so bracketing it would make no sense. Hope this helped. OCDD (talk) 13:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support move to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation). —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 19:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

  The situation around global governance of Kabaddi is extremely complicated and those who wish to know further about it should read my long note at Special:Redirect/page/60987794#Governance of global Kabaddi and World Cups. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 19:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)