Talk:KOTA-TV

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Sammi Brie in topic Mostly incorrect

Re: KEVN's owner

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Is this the same Mission Broadcasting that is associated with Nexstar Broadcasting Group??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 FRI SEP 22 2006 2:48 PM EDT

Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material

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SRDS Spot Television Rates and Data

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According to the Standard Rates and Data Service's Spot Television Rates and Data directory for April 15, 1978, p. 389, kevn/kivv's (sorry, couldn't type a capital k on this keyboard) entry gave a general schedule of its programming. Nothing was mentioned about CBS in that entry. In addition, kevn's first entry in Television Factbook (1977) showed ABC only. It can be safely assumed, therefore, that kevn/kivv never was affiliated with CBS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:4001:6000:F592:9720:945F:D340 (talk) 02:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Mostly incorrect

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This article is MOSTLY incorrect. The history of KEVN is unrelated to KOTA. This article needs a total re-write by a true authority on the subject.JGMDakota (talk) 15:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm definitely not the person to do this, but I agree with the above. There is far more information about the history of KEVN here that there is on the KEVN page. There are entire sections of this that would make more sense if they were moved to that page. Cardweaver (talk) 22:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Paging @Sammi Brie: Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi Cardweaver, this is a toughie and let me explain why.
In WPRS and TVS, we have a general rule of "one license-facility, one article". This means that, for the most part, an article follows the history of one particular station. For most stations, this is straightforward (even in radio with a dizzying set of format flips, like KGMZ (AM)). However, the 2016 half-sale (which left Gray with one high-power multiplex) muddied the waters badly. The current arrangement represents the license and facility record correctly: the history of KOTA → KHME is one article, the history of KEVN → KOTA is another, and KEVN-LD, which had scarcely operated prior to the Gray purchase, is a third. That said, I get why this can astonish readers because of the complexity of the 2016 sale.
In that sale, Gray moved the KOTA call letters and ABC programming to share space with the KEVN Fox programming on the former KEVN facility (and then created KEVN-LD). Essentially, the histories of two intellectual units are "stacked" in one facility, but both facilities still exist.
Such is the complexity of this question in the field that I have a full user essay on it, User:Sammi Brie/One or Two. In it, I discuss this topic:

In a few events, a facility swap in which stations "switch" positions requires that a license history be downplayed in favor of the intellectual unit history. There are good examples in television, like the WTVJ/WCIX -> WFOR-TV swap of 1995. WFOR-TV operates on the old WTVJ license, but it's not WTVJ in any other way.

Back in 1995, in the days of analog television, one license facilitated the transmission of one television service. These days, this is not the case, and one license facilitates a multiplex that may host multiple services (in our case, ABC and Fox in Rapid City). Over in Sioux Falls, Gray last year acquired everything but the license to KTTW. Consequently, a Fox subchannel appeared on all of Gray's transmitters in the Sioux Falls area. In that case, the history of Fox in Sioux Falls is spread across two pages, KTTW and KDLT-TV.
I know this sounds weird and confusing, and I appreciate that it astonishes readers because swaps of this type can be remarkably seamless in a digital TV environment!, but the pages are where they should be. Ping me back if you have questions. If there are Rapid City broadcasting pages that you feel need more content, I would also be more than happy to assist, because I do have Newspapers.com access (and thus the Rapid City Journal) and specialize in creating/improving broadcasting articles with it. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 23:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
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