Talk:Josephine Flood

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I have rewritten the longer passages of duplicate text - some of these however are just titles of publications and organisation, and others are simply logical phrases - e.g."more than 2000 Aboriginal sites on the Register of the National Estate". Garyvines (talk) 04:37, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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I thought I had pretty much gotten rid of any copyright text and applied the duplication detector to the result, which showed only three word strings and references;, but I have now rewritten the sections at issue and reposted the article here Talk:Josephine Flood/Temp as instructed.Garyvines (talk) 10:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for reworking the text. Copyright issues go beyond precise duplication - Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing may be helpful reading here. We can inadvertently come too close to our sources when we modify sentences incrementally instead of, as requested, rewriting from scratch. I have modified a bit further but believe that what we have now is not an issue for copyright.

However, it does have some issues with sourcing. The bulk of sources cited in this article are primary sources, authored by Flood herself or by entities connected to her (the university where she taught). Wikipedia's content is meant to be primarily based on secondary and tertiary sources. We prefer sources that are subjected to scrutiny and review before publication and that are respected and widely trusted as reliable and neutral. I have altered the language "Flood is credited with" as the source cited for that information is Flood herself. If Flood is credited with this discovery (and she may well be) by others, please cite the sources that indicate as much. I have also flagged that source 10 may not meet our requirements for sourcing; please see identifying reliable sources. While we do sometimes cite websites created and owned by individuals, we generally need to establish that they are respected experts in the field.

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This is not specifically related to sourcing, but I have removed the names of her children in accordance with WP:BLP. Being written about on Wikipedia can be a mixed blessing, and it is our policy not to include the names of family members who are not themselves notable, in respect for their privacy. See WP:BLPNAME. If these family members are widely reported in reliable sources, this presumption of privacy does not apply. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 10:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I found some better sources for the {verify credibility} tagged paragraph, so I removed this tag, as well as better source for the mountaineering section - were there other secondary sources needed or can we remove the {Primarysources} tag too?.Garyvines (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

On balance, probably better to let someone else do that. I've removed a couple of sources that don't seem to me WP:RS, and also the sentence about the 20000 m mountains! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 07:49, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I have added a couple of new citations, - just looking for an independent confirmation that her husband was a diplomat. There is also more to add on the mountaineering side from a couple of these, but that is for later.Garyvines (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I added further references - 16 in total now, so Unless I hear dissent, I will remove the {Primarysources} tag since no one else is editing this article. Garyvines (talk) 05:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)