Talk:Jessica Jung/Archive 2
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Should it be Korean–American?
From my understanding, Jessica parents are born in South Korea which essentially makes them South Korean citizen. They moved to San Francisco back in the 90s before Jessica was born. So I was wondering if I should be written as Korean-American singer instead of American singer?
Taking references from f(x) Amber page, she is listed as Taiwanese–American because her parents are born in Taiwan and born in Los Angeles.Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 05:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- The nationalities in the introduction should be the ones the person is confirmed to have. Being born in the USA, we know Jessica has the American nationality, it's possible she is allowed to apply for the Korean nationality but I have seen no reliable sources that says she has.DragonFury (talk) 07:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- According to South Korean nationality law, quoted "Individuals automatically receive South Korean nationality at birth if at least one parent is a South Korean national, whether they are born within the Republic of Korea or overseas." It seem that as long as one of the parents is South Korean national, the child is automatically given South Korean nationality even if they are born outside South Korea. Adding on, I only know from fan photo footage that her sister Krystal holds US and SK passport when going aboard. Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 08:00, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Considering how many K-pop idols have (implied) dual nationality maybe it's better to take this discussion to the appropriate WikiProject page? DragonFury (talk) 10:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Any idea which WikiProject page is suitable? I'm not sure which to choose Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 11:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Considering how many K-pop idols have (implied) dual nationality maybe it's better to take this discussion to the appropriate WikiProject page? DragonFury (talk) 10:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- According to South Korean nationality law, quoted "Individuals automatically receive South Korean nationality at birth if at least one parent is a South Korean national, whether they are born within the Republic of Korea or overseas." It seem that as long as one of the parents is South Korean national, the child is automatically given South Korean nationality even if they are born outside South Korea. Adding on, I only know from fan photo footage that her sister Krystal holds US and SK passport when going aboard. Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 08:00, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Nationality
In this Concert VCR in Taiwan, Jessica said that she "actually didn't have a Korean name" and "it's written only 'Jessica Jung' on [her] passport". So Jessica might only hold United States citizenship, unlike her sister Krystal who might hold dual citizenship of United States and South Korea. -- Cisdine (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Cisdine: Well that's your speculation, furthermore YouTube cannot as used as RS (only in some circumstances like MV and only if they come from the agency) and the source you linked is fan-made/recorded video. Please read about WP:CRYSTAL and WP:FANCRUFT. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Middle name "Sooyoun"
In this Concert VCR in Taiwan, Jessica said that "it's written only 'Jessica Jung' on [her] passport". So I am wondering if "Jessica Sooyoun Jung" is her birth name, she or her parents then changed her name to "Jessica Jung", eliminating the middle name "Sooyoun". -- Cisdine (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Even the article states that her birth name is Jessica Jung and the korean was obtained at a later date (in the personal life section) so I'm going to go ahead and remove the birth name paramater as its the same as the article name Alex (talk)
- @Alexanderlee: Imo, her birth name should still be retain, even though in the personal life section that you have pointed you stated otherwise. Pertaining to the article you have mentioned (I believe you're talking about the Chinese-language article), inside the article, Jessica stated her real name is Jessica and her passport name is Jessica Jung. However, real name can actually be changed, changing real name also changes your passport name.[1] In addition, Jessica stated her real name instead of her birth name which even though is quite similar but yet quite different as well. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Paper9oll: in that cass this needs more clarification, but whats cureently in the article states that her birth name is Jessica Jung, and that Soo-young was obtained at a later date. If it was obtained af a later date then whether it is now her legal name or not, it isn't her birth name. Alex (talk) 01:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alexanderlee: I would say putting Jessica Jung under the other names field inside infobox and changing the lead from
Jessica Sooyoun Jung (born April 18, 1989)toJessica Jung<move the chinese article here; optionally> (born Jessica Sooyoun Jung on April 18, 1989)<reference here>. This change would be similar to Song Ji-hyo article. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alexanderlee: I would say putting Jessica Jung under the other names field inside infobox and changing the lead from
- @Paper9oll: in that cass this needs more clarification, but whats cureently in the article states that her birth name is Jessica Jung, and that Soo-young was obtained at a later date. If it was obtained af a later date then whether it is now her legal name or not, it isn't her birth name. Alex (talk) 01:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alexanderlee: Imo, her birth name should still be retain, even though in the personal life section that you have pointed you stated otherwise. Pertaining to the article you have mentioned (I believe you're talking about the Chinese-language article), inside the article, Jessica stated her real name is Jessica and her passport name is Jessica Jung. However, real name can actually be changed, changing real name also changes your passport name.[1] In addition, Jessica stated her real name instead of her birth name which even though is quite similar but yet quite different as well. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 01:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Birth name and date of birth
I have removed the birth name and date of birth from this article along with the accompanying citation to California Birth Index. WP:BLPPRIMARY specifies, "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, ..." We need a reliable, published, non-primary source to support the date of birth and the birth name. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)