Talk:Jersey Shore sound

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Moline1 in topic Redirection to Music of New Jersey?

Under lesser know bands the band Salvation was always listed it has recently disappeared???

The band Salvation was the house band at the Osprey in Manasquan,NJ for 12 summers from 1969 to 1981. They had a following of thousands of NJ,NY and PA and they packed nightclubs and concerts in the area. They recorded with United Artists and Elektra Records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSRLLCM (talkcontribs) 01:15, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Untitled

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I'm kind of disappointed. Clearly several editors added their own names or bands, or prompted others to add them. As a long time Jersey Shore musician and a born and raised "clam digger" I am very familiar with the Jersey Shore scene and sound. Many of the artists listed here don't belong.

Sonny Kenn, Bill Chinook, Lance Larsen, all yes. I will probably add references to other influential bars and clubs, like the the Fast Lane, Mrs. Jay's Beer Garden, et cetera, as the Stone Pony was not the first and only, although it is the most famous.

Parlor Mob? Just because they were signed to a small label does not make them "major artists", not even close to the level of Springsteen, Southside, Cats on a Smooth Surface (although they were a cover band, but did often have members from the other famous Jersey Shore bands). I'm not sure you could even put them in lesser known artists.

Beaver Brown, LaBamba and the Hubcaps, Cats, Diamonds, were all bands with ties to the Jersey Shore sound and were a big part of the Asbury Park music history in the 1980's. Guess I'll need to add some of them to the list.

Scott Stamper, owner of the Saint nite club, should be prominent on this page. Jack Monohan, aka "Wacko Jacko", former punk musician and long time booker of the Brighton Bar, should also get a place of prominence here. Both of them were critical in the rise to prominence of Vitamin C, having booked her for her first shows ever as the band Eve's Plum. The Whirling Dervishes were regulars at the Brighton before their hit "Mr. Grinch". Monster Magnet was practically a house band at the Brighton before they had the one MTV hit. You name it, these two club owners and promoters brought some of the biggest names in the music biz to the Jersey Shore before they were even on the radar screen.

Anyone want to chime in with me?

I agree with you. I am from an earlier era than you and there are many of the top bands of my time period left out as well. I see that they finally have something about the band Salvation in the lesser know bands. They were a serious influence during their tenure and definitely the greatest party band of all times in New Jersey. The Osprey, in Manasquan was jammed 6 nights a week and 2 matinees on the weekends to see these guys for 10 or 11 years. They were also the first horn band before Southside Johnny. Another band that is missing from the list is Holme. They have put the band back together and are currently drawing huge crowds at the Jersey Shore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.88.227 (talk) 14:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Clean up

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This is a very problematic article that includes a large amount of unsourced original research. The claim is made in this article that this is a music genre, but there is no evidence of that here and neither can I find any through on-line searches. These acts are not part of a genre, but several genres, sharing a common place of origin and some elements. If sources cannot be found to support the assertions it may have to be deleted or the content moved to something like "New Jersey Scene", assuming that can be sourced. So if you have any reliable sources to support the assertions please add them.--SabreBD (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Lesser Known Bands Section Contains Spam

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The lesser known bands section contains a bit of dishonest PR lifted from the website of a Jersey area motown cover band called "The Sensational Soul Cruisers" which falsely suggests they (in an earlier incarnation) where "the inspiration" for the 1983 movie "Eddie and The Cruisers", which was in fact about a completely fictional band which derived its name not from any real band but from a 1980 novel of the same name (on which the movie was based).

When the novel "Eddie and The Cruisers" was published in 1980, most of the future "Sensational Soul Cruisers" would've been about 15 years old. Since the band "Eddie and The Cruisers" referred to in the article as a precursor of "The Sensational Soul Cruisers" emerged in the late 80s, long after the book and movie, the claim that the fictional band of the book and movie got their name from their band, and not the other way round, is dubious to say the least, and comes verbatim from "The Sensational Soul Cruisers" website, which reeks of using Wikipedia as a PR tool. CannotFindAName (talk) 05:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm going to agree with you. I am going to do additional clean up. Still lots of self promotion/original content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomrichardsbass (talkcontribs) 13:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

The Rascals

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Jersey rock music without The Rascals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.131.133 (talk) 23:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

"Vinnie James is the only African-American songwriter in this genre." What about Garland Jeffreys?

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He is listed in the article as being part of this genre, and Wkpdia claims he is "of African American and Puerto Rican American heritage". Fp cassini (talk) 07:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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I removed the prod tag from the article as there appears to be plenty of sources that discuss this. I don't have time to work in now, but leaving these here in case anyone wants to pick it up:

I'm sure there are more out there. --Michig (talk) 21:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Major edits

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The article has been tagged for multiple issues for nearly 10 years. It is still almost entirely unsourced. It probably should be deleted altogether, but an attempt to do that last year did not meet with success. I have removed a good chunk of the unsourced content, leaving the sourced content and the content that looked plausible. The article still needs a lot more sources; I have tagged it accordingly. SunCrow (talk) 04:54, 29 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Redirection to Music of New Jersey?

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This article as it is is a complete mess:

1. There are only three sources here.

2. Almost all the bands listed here do not have "Jersey Shore sound" on their respective pages (Bruce Springsteen had the genre listed on his page throughout the mid-2010's, but of course, it was unsourced, and eventually, removed altogether), and the ones that do, the claim that they're "Jersey Shore sound" is unsourced. In fact, all mentions of a band/artist being "Jersey Shore sound" is unsourced. Maybe Bruce Springsteen's 1970's material fit this genre, but his 1980's music most certainly does not as it is more in line with the music of that time (Synthpop (Dancing in the Dark, Glory Days), heartland rock (most of his material including Born in the U.S.A), rockabilly revival (I'm on Fire), funk (Pink Cadillac), and so forth).

3. Other artists from New Jersey, like Frank Sinatra and Bon Jovi are not even remotely associated with this genre, as both are jazz and glam/pop metal, respectively. In addition, Looking Glass' big hit Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) is cited as soft rock[1] and pop,[2] rather than Jersey Shore sound.

Either clean up this article and find sources for the claims here, or consider a redirect to "Music of New Jersey" if the sourcing is strong enough to support this term is in use, but not enough for the genre to deserve its own page (in this case, a small snippet on the redirect page would do so as to satisfy anyone who may actually be searching for this genre). Moline1 (talk) 23:23, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply