Talk:James Hadfield
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Battle of Roubaix
editThe original reference to Hadfield's injury at the soi disant "Battle of Roubaix" in 1794 came from the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. However, I can find no other reference to such a battle anywhere. However, Roubaix is near to Tourcoing and the Battle of Tourcoing (1794) has to be the prime suspect. Of course, the source of that little bit of research is Wikipedia! I shall just go ahead and change it, leaving this as a trail. Cutler 23:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
There's other sources that state that his wound was received at the battle of Lincelles, where he was part of the bodyguard of the Duke of York (who whilst interrogating him straight after his assassination attempt recognized him). Richard Moran in his article "The Origin of Insanity as a Special Verdict: The Trial for Treason of James Hadfield (1800" (Law & Society Review, 1985; Vol 19(3): 487) states it was at the battle of Lincelles. Jack Hawkins legal academic & Times reader (talk) 21:02, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I like you well-you are a good fellow' comment
edithatfield didn't make the 'I like you well-you are a good fellow' comment to George 111-it was to the duke of york who interviewed him shortly after the shooting in the so called green room of drury lane. I'm definitely right about this but won't change the article out of respect to whoever wrote it-other mistakes are there too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pot-bellied fool (talk • contribs) 00:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
millennialist movement ???
editI think it's questionable to say Hatfield got involved in a millennialist movement. he just got involved with a millenarian individual. Many of the accounts of this case and H's involvement are the testimony of unreliable coloured sources such as spies like william reid. The key thing is that Hatfield only met truelock on the monday prior to the assassination attempt which was on wednesday. he fell under the influence of truelock who was a millenarian for sure-but there's no evidence of a movement behind BT a la richard brothers. reid claims hat. and true. were regulars at seditious pub meetings but there's no evidence of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pot-bellied fool (talk • contribs) 00:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
eight times on the head??
editI don't think hatfield was struck eight times on the head specifically , the blows went all over his body, lacerating his arm and his body in most accounts...see the trial account. Eight times on the head would have killed him no doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pot-bellied fool (talk • contribs) 00:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
early years unknown???
editdunno if it's strictly 'unknown' - it's known H joined the army very young, as a teen. His relationship with his future wife Elizabeth began before he joined the army as a teenager and his later profession as a silversmith after release from the POW camp must have begun in apprenticeship as a teenager. He also had a brother David who testified at the trial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pot-bellied fool (talk • contribs) 00:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Insanity? Really?
editFrom what I've seen, it seems to be that George III thought anyone who tried to kill him was crazy. As if he said "Look, I'm a divine king, anyone who wants to kill me is obviously insane." ProudIrishAspie (talk) 06:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)