Talk:James Earl Jones Theatre/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gerald Waldo Luis (talk · contribs) 07:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey there, looks like a splendid GAN! I'll be posting my review soon. GeraldWL 07:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Lead and infobox

• The image caption is kinda weird and vague, and I've never seen other articles like this. Perhaps change to "Exterior in 2011". But if it's actually common practice, I'll let this pass.
  • I have clarified this. Epicgenius (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• That image, as well as the other images, need alt texts.
• The first sentence reads "between Seventh Avenue and Sixth Avenue near Times Square, in the Theater District of Midtown Manhattan in New York City", while the one in section Site reads "between Seventh Avenue and Sixth Avenue, near Times Square in the Theater District of Midtown Manhattan in New York City." The first has a comma after "square" while the second has a comma after "avenue". Personally I find the second more readable, but whatever is grammatically right, it must be consistent.
  • Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "Both the exterior and interior of the theater are New York City landmarks." Mind clarifying what this means?
  • Both the exterior and interior are given an official "New York City designated landmark" status; this is a cultural heritage status given by the NYC Landmarks Preservation Commission. Unlike some heritage registers, the LPC gives out separate landmark designations for facades and interiors. A building with landmark status typically only enjoys such protections for its facade, and an interior-landmark status usually covers only a portion of a structure's public interior - so, for instance, an auditorium can be protected as a landmark, but not the lobby. In this case, both of the interior public spaces (the lobby and the auditorium) are interior landmarks. However, it may be unwieldy to explain this in the lead.
    Such landmarks are commonly referred to as "New York City landmarks". This status can be given not only to world-renowned locations like the Empire State Building, Grand Central Terminal, and Statue of Liberty, but also to relatively small structures like this one. Epicgenius (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "and was renovated during its closure" --> "and was renovated during this period" to avoid repetition.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Site

• "The Cort Theater is" --> "The Cort Theater is a Broadway theater"

Design

• "and it was"-- "it" is redundant here
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The Cort is" --> "It is", as the previous sentence starts with "The Cort" too, thus repetition
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The theater is operated by the Shubert Organization as of 2021." I don't think this should be part of Design, perhaps History.
  • Removed. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "A contemporary New-York Tribune article"-- link New-York Tribune
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "has the words "Cort Theatre""-- "has the theater's name" sounds less redundant to me.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The annex will be about" --> "It will be about"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "Unlike the original facade, the annex will have" --> "Unlike the original facade, it will have"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• Link LED
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• According to our definition, sic usually denotes a quoted text is "erroneous, archaic, or otherwise nonstandard", and "complimentary" sounds like neither of them. Perhaps change it to "as well as champagne and sienna-colored plaster decoration intended to evoke a "complimentary" mood." I'd also suggest linking Champagne (color), but if it's overlink then it's fine.
  • The spelling is indeed erroneous, as the champagne and sienna colors were meant to complement each other, or be counterparts. The word being used here, "compliment", is synonymous with praise, which was likely not the intended meaning. This error is also identified in page 13 of the source. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "and it is"-- "it" redundant
  • Removed. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "though the Broadway League"-- "the" shouldn't be part of the link
  • The Broadway League is the actual name of the organization and I would prefer to avoid a redirect; however, if you think a redirect is preferable, then I would be fine with that. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

    Nevermind, sorry didn't see that! GeraldWL 01:14, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

• "The proscenium arch consists of"-- "It consists of" to avoid repetition.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "during the period made famous in (Antoine) Watteau's drawings of French court life at Versailles"-- change the brackets to squared ones ("[Antoine]"); square brackets are used to add a word for clarity whereas brackets are used to give an entire statement of clarification (e.g. "The quick brown fox (Ben) jumps over the lazy dog (Jody)")
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

History

• "between 1900 and the Great Depression"-- "the" shouldn't be part of the link
  • Removed. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "who leased them in January 1912 to John Cort for 21 years" --> "who leased them in January 1912 to Cort for 21 years"; also remove the other John-s following this.
  • Removed. The mentions of John Cort's first name are intended to distinguish him from his theater (something that actually is brought up in the very next point). Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• When referring to the Cort Theatre this article keeps switching between "the Cort" and "the Cort Theatre". I think it must be consistent
  • It is common practice to drop the word "Theatre"/"Theater" as shorthand for the theater's name. I have removed "Theatre" where it's obvious what the subject is. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "and the comedy The Bishop Misbehaves in 1935." No need for "the comedy", as mentions of other productions don't state the genre.
  • Removed. Epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "CBS spent $1 million on renovating" --> "They spent $1 million on renovating"
  • Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "Theatrical historian Ken Bloom wrote of the several short performances: "The Cort's luck seems to have run out."" Awkward wording. Suggest change to "Theatrical historian Ken Bloom observed the several short performances and opined: "The Cort's luck seems to have run out.""
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The theater's other productions in the decade included"-- should it be "included" or "include"?
  • Since these productions were in the past, this should be past tense. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The Cort Theatre hosted the production of the musical Bright Star that year." Is "the musical" needed? I feel like readers already know it's a musical.
  • Removed. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
• "During the COVID-19 shutdown"-- repetitive "COVID-19"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Notable prods

• Is there a reason most of the productions have multiple refs? For example in "1949: Two Blind Mice", I feel like ref. 126 is enough.
  • I think having multiple refs in this section increases the verifiability of the productions (some shows are only recorded by Playbill and the Broadway League, while others are also recorded in the book refs. Epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• "The Tony Award-winning revival of Fences, starring Denzel Washington and Viola Davis, achieved the box office record for the Cort Theatre. The production grossed $1,175,626 over eight performances, for the week ending July 11, 2010." --> "The Tony Award-winning revival of Fences, starring Denzel Washington and Viola Davis, achieved the box office record for the Cort Theatre, grossing $1,175,626 over eight performances, for the week ending July 11, 2010."
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
    • And this article looks almost good. One last thing is I suggest putting Template:Use American English (put them according to MOS:ORDER). After that I'll take a quick last read and pass this article. GeraldWL 01:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

      @Gerald Waldo Luis, thank you very much for the detailed commentary. I've done this now. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

      No problem man, I had a lot of fun skimming through this article, especially since I have just recently been getting into Broadway and shit. Good job on this, and I'm considering this  Passed. GeraldWL 01:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

      Epicgenius, if you're interested, I have an open FLC that's still looking for another support as well as a source review. GeraldWL 02:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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