Talk:Islam in Azerbaijan

Percent Figures

I found the 93.4% muslims figure, and it's a 1995 estimate on the CIA World Factbook. I'm changing this to the 95% figure from the Administrative Department of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan, which was written in the 2000s. I'm also putting in numbers from the 2009 Pew study.Qwertzy (talk) 03:54, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Merge

I propose merge of Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan here to avoid possible coatrack. brandспойт 08:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, radical Islam in Azerbaijan is not a significant issue and does not deserve a separate article. Grandmaster 09:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

According to sources provided, Radical Islamism (not Islam) is very significant in Azerbaijan and continues to grow. if all the described movements, webs, events, terrorist activities in Azerbaijan are not significant, report for the article's deletion I'm sure it will look strange. Gazifikator (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose Islam (the religion) in Azerbaijan is a quite different topic. Radical Islamism is not the same as the religion of Islam, it is an extremist social, religious, political and military phenomenon, also strongly related to terrorism, and has nothing common with peaceful religion. Gazifikator (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the material should be deleted, but it certainly does not merit a separate article. Radical or not, it is still Islam, and the existence of one or two fanatics does not mean that radical Islam plays any significant role in Azerbaijani society. Grandmaster 11:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

There is a significant difference (see for more [1]). And if you read the article, you will see, the Radical Islamism plays important role in Azerbaijan (even according to officials), and this role is growing. There are not only "one or two fanatics", but organized groups and webs in different regions representing serious groups like Al-Qaida and Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and they're organizing terrorist attacks. Gazifikator (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Which terrorist attacks did they organize? There were none, just a couple that were prevented. And how radical Islam plays an important role in Azerbaijan? It does not affect Azerbaijani society in any way. The vast majority of women here don't wear vails, and and strict observation of religious traditions is not required. I'm really curious in what way this radical Islam affects Azerbaijani society. I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks, but virtually non-existent radical Islam in Azerbaijan and the transnational terrorist group of ASALA are not the things from the same category. Grandmaster 13:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm agree with you that ASALArmy and Radical islamism in Azerbaijan are of completely different categories. I thing the most of questions you're asking are answered in the article, I have nothing to add. And please do not write things like "I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks" (it is against WP:AGF and civility), I'm working on Azerbaijan-related articles since 2007. I'm greating articles that are important for Wikipedia readers, during all these years I don't remember an incident when an article created by me was deleted as it wasn't a significant topic. Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan is for sure an important topic. Gazifikator (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It is not deletion, but merging of the existing info into suitable article by redirect, see WP:MERGE#Full-content paste merger. brandспойт 08:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose per User:Gazifikator. ----DanTD (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I suggest making a formal merge or delete proposal in the "articles for deletion" page. Meowy 16:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

This whole article is a compilation of isolated and minor events exaggerated to make this issue look significant. "Wahhabist" is not even a word. There are in fact no large or notable Islamist (radical or other) organisations in Azerbaijan and no history of massive radical Islamist activity. Parishan (talk) 22:23, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I should have worded my earlier point stronger. This discussion is now mostly pointless: there have been two "oppose's" so the two articles can't now be merged without going through a proper deletion proposal process. Meowy 01:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge the article is Armenian propaganda to point as if there is no Armenian occupation in Azerbaijan and the only problem is few radical muslims.PKK in armenia is more appropriate article to be written by Armenian users.Abbatai (talk) 14:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge. Radical Islamism is only a minor trend in Azerbaijan, and does not deserve its own article. Chippolona (talk) 06:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Merge. This article is based on a handful of events it would be similiar to create PKK in Armenia. As conclusion this article is nothing but hatred and propaganda against Azerbaijan initiated by Armenian users. Baku87 (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. There's a lot to say about religion in Azerbaijan in general and about Islam in particular. Radical Islamism should get a mention somewhere and be properly linked to from this article, but certainly radical Islamism is another topic entirely. This is a religion article, while things about the military/paramilitary/terrorist/freedom fighter/whatever actions of Islamist groups should be at Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan. I see that currently the Radical Islamism section of this article is a direct copy-paste from Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan (or the other way around). Jafeluv (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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