Talk:Interstate 40 in North Carolina/Archive 1

Archive 1

Migrated exit lists

Both following lists migrated by me from Talk:Interstate 40. —C.Fred (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Can we remove the "Mile" column? And can we finish the table (the blank space on the right doesn't look too good). Also it looks like there's a problem in the Triangle list, I don't know what's up with that. I've tried before, but I just can't get it right. --MPD01605 (T / C) 00:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't edit yet, just copy. I need to look at the latest guidelines and bring it in line with those. I'll start with the Triangle, since I have more first-hand knowledge of the exit list there. —C.Fred (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. I'll work on the Triad list, and I have a link to a full I-40 exit list (minus municipalities) somewhere. I won't do it tonight...probably not at least. I have some other work to do before that. --MPD01605 (T / C) 02:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Tennessee to Wilmington

County	Location	#	Destinations	Notes
Interstate 40 continues into Tennessee
Haywood		7	Harmon Den
		15	Fines Creek
		20	US 276 south - Waynesville, Maggie Valley
		24	NC 209 - Lake Junaluska
		27	US 74 west to US 19/US 23 - Clyde, North Carolina, Waynesville	US 74 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
		31	NC 215 - Canton
		33	Newfound Road
Buncombe		37	Candler
		44	US 19/US 23 - Enka, Candler
	Asheville	46A	I-26 east/US 74 east - Hendersonville, Spartanburg	US 74 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
		46B	I-26 west/I-240 - Asheville	No access 40 westbound to 26 westbound or 26 eastbound to 40 eastbound
		47	NC 191 - West Asheville, Farmer's Market	40 Westbound: To I-26/240 Westbound
		50	US 25 - South Asheville, Asheville, Biltmore House	Westbound split into 50A and 50B
		51	US 25 Alternate - Asheville
		53A	US 74 Alternate East - Blue Ridge Parkway, Bat Cave
		53B	I-240 US 74 Alternate West to I-26 west - East Asheville, Asheville
		55	To US 70 - East Asheville, V A Hospital
	Swannanoa	59	Swannanoa
	Black Mountain	64	NC 9 - Black Mountain, Montreat
		65	US 70 - Black Mountain	US 70 joins eastbound and leaves westbound, westbound exit only
		66	Ridgecrest
McDowell		72	US 70 east - Old Fort	US 70 leaves eastbound and joins westbound, eastbound exit only
	Old Fort	73	Old Fort
		75	Parker Padgett Road
		81	Marion, Sugar Hills Road
		83	Ashworth Road
		85	US 221 - Marion, Rutherfordton
		86	NC 226 - Marion, Shelby
		90	Nebo, Lake James
Burke		94	Dysartsville Road
		96	Kathy Road
		98	Causby Road
	Glen Alpine	100	Jamestown Road - Glen Alpine
	Morgantown	103	US 64 - Morganton, Rutherfordton
		104	Enola Road
		105	NC 18 - Morganton Downtown, Shelby
		107	NC 114 - Drexel
	Valdese	111	Valdese
		112	Mineral Springs Mtn Road
	Rutherford College	113	Rutherford College, Connelly Springs
	Icard	116	Old NC 10
	Hildebran	118	Old NC 10
		119	Henry River, Hildebran	Eastbound split into 119A and 119B
Catawba	Long View	121	Long View
	Hickory	123	US 321 to US 70/NC 127 - Hickory, Lenoir, Lincolnton
		125	Hickory, Lenoir-Rhyne College
		126	To US 70 - Hickory, Newton
	Fairgrove	128	Fairgrove Church Road
	Conover	130	Old US 70
		131	NC 16 - Conover, Taylorsville	Eastbound exit only
		132	To NC 16 - Conover, Taylorsville
		133	Rock Barn Road
	Claremont	135	Claremont
		138	NC 10 - Oxford School Road, Catawba
Iredell		141	Sharon School Road
		144	Old Mountain Road
		146	Stamey Farm Road
	Statesville	148	US 64/NC 90 - West Statesville, Taylorsville
		150	NC 115 - Statesville Downtown, North Wilkesboro
		151	US 21 - East Statesville, Harmony
		152A	I-77 south - Charlotte
		152B	I-77 north - Elkin
		153	US 64	Eastbound exit only
		154	To US 64 (Old Mocksville Road)
		162	US 64
Davie		168	US 64 - Mocksville
		170	US 601 - Mocksville, Yadkinville
		174	Farmington Road
		180	NC 801 - Tanglewood, Bermuda Run
Forsyth	Clemmons	182	Harper Road- Tanglewood, Bermuda Run	Westbound exit only
		184	Lewisville-Clemmons Road - Lewisville, Clemmons
	Winston-Salem	188	Interstate 40 Business/US 421 - Winston-Salem, W-S Downtown, Yadkinville	No access from 421 south to 40 west or 40 east to 421 north
		189	US 158 (Stratford Road)
		190	Hanes Mall Boulevard	Wesbound exit only
		192	NC 150 (Peters Creek Parkway) - Downtown
		193C	Silas Creek Parkway, South Main Street	Westbound exit only
		193A	US 52 south/NC 8 south - Lexington
		193B	US 52 north/US 311 north/NC 8 north - Mount Airy	to Interstate 74 west, US 311 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
		195	NC 109 (Clemmonsville Road) - Thomasville
		196	US 311 south - High Point	US 311 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
		201	Union Cross Road
	Kernersville	203	NC 66 - Kernersville, High Point
Guilford		206	Interstate 40 Business/US 421 north - Kernersville, Winston-Salem Downtown	Westbound exit only, US 421 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
	Greensboro	208	Sandy Ridge Road, Farmer's Market
		210	NC 68 - PTI, High Point
		211	Gallimore Dairy Road
		213	Guilford College Road
		214	Wendover Avenue	Split into 214A (Wendover west) and 214B (Wendover east) eastbound
		216	NC 6 west - Greensboro, Coliseum Area	Eastbound exit only
		217	High Point Road - Coliseum Area
		218A	US 220 south to I-85 Business south - Asheboro	US 220 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
		218B	Freeman Mill Road - Coliseum Area
		219	Bus 85 south/US 29 south/US 70 west - Charlotte	Business 85, US 29, and US 70 join eastbound and leave westbound, Exit 36A westbound
joins
follows exit numbers
Guilford	Greensboro	36	Randleman Road	Exit 36B westbound
		37	South Elm-Eugene Street - Downtown
		38	US 421 south/ML King Jr. Drive - Sanford	US 421 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
		39	US 29 north/US 70 east/US 220 north - Reidsville	US 29, US 70, and US 220 leave eastbound and join westbound, eastbound exit only
		41	NC 6 (East Lee Street) to US 29 north/US 220 north
		43	McConnell Road
		45	I-85 south to US 70 - High Point, Charlotte	I-85 joins eastbound and leaves westbound end , Future I-840, Exit 131 westbound
joins
follows exit numbers
Guilford		132	Mount Hope Church Road
		135	Rock Creek Dairy Road
		138	NC 61 - Gibsonville
Alamance		140	University Drive - Elon
	Burlington	141	Huffman Mill Road
		143	NC 62 - Alamance
		145	NC 49 - Burlington Downtown, Liberty
	Graham	147	NC 87 - Graham, Pittsboro
		148	NC 54 - Graham, North Carolina, Chapel Hill
		150	Haw River
	Mebane	152	Trollingwood Road
		153	NC 119 - Mebane
		154	Mebane-Oaks Road - Mebane
Orange		157	Buckhorn Road
		160	Efland
		161	To US 70 east to NC 86 north
	Hillsborough	163	I-85 north - Durham	I-85 leaves eastbound and joins westbound, Exit 259 westbound
separates from
Orange	Hillsborough	261	Hillsborough	Old NC 86
		263	New Hope Church Road
		266	NC 86 - Carrboro
Durham	Chapel Hill	270	US 15/US 501 - Chapel Hill, Durham
		273A-B	NC 54 - Chapel Hill, Durham	Eastbound combined to single exit 273
		274	NC 751 - Jordan Lake, Durham
		276	Fayetteville Road - Southpoint
		278	NC 55 to NC 54 - Apex, Durham
		279A-B	NC 147 (Durham Freeway)
	RTP	280	Davis Drive
		281	Miami Boulevard
		282	Page Road
		283	I-540 to US 70
Wake		284A-B	Airport Blvd - RDU Airport	Westbound combined to single exit 284
		285	Aviation Parkway - RDU Airport
		287	Harrison Avenue - Cary
		289	Wade Avenue to US Route 1
	Cary	290	NC 54 - Cary
		291	Cary Towne Boulevard - Cary
		293A	US Route 1 south/US 64 west	I-440 and US 64 join eastbound and leave westbound
		293B	I-440 Inner/US 1 north
		295	Gorman Street
		297	Lake Wheeler Road
	Raleigh	298A-B	US 401/US 70/NC 50 (S. Saunders Street) - Garner, Fayetteville
		299	Person Street/Hammond Road
		300	Rock Quarry Road
		301	I-440 Outer/US 64 east - Rocky Mount	I-440 and US 64 leave eastbound and join westbound, signage eastbound shows I-440 west and westbound shows I-440 Outer
		303	Jones Sausage Road
		306	US 70 - Garner, Clayton	Westbound split into 306A and 306B
Johnston		312	NC 42 - Clayton, Fuquay-Varnia
		319	NC 210 - Smithfield, Angier
	Benson	325	NC 242 to US 301 - Benson
		328A	I-95 south - Benson, Fayetteville
		328B	I-95 north - Smithfield, Rocky Mount
		334	NC 96 - Meadow
Sampson	Newton Grove	341	NC 50/NC 55 to US 13 - Newton Grove
		343	US 701 to US 13 - Newton Grove, Clinton
		348	Suttontown Road
		355	NC 403 to US 117 - Faison, Goldsboro
Duplin		364	NC 24 west/NC 24 Business to NC 50 - Warsaw, Clinton	NC 24 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
		369	US 117 - Warsaw
		373	NC 24 east/NC 903 - Magnolia, Kenansville	NC 24 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
		380	Rose Hill, Greenevers
		384	NC 11 - Teachey
		385	NC 41 - Wallace
Pender		390	US 117 - Wallace
		398	NC 53 - Burgaw, North Carolina, Jacksonville
		408	NC 210 - Topsail Island
New Hanover	Castle Hayne	414	New Hanover
		416A	I-140 west/US 17 south - Shallotte, Myrtle Beach
		416B	I-140 east/US 17 north - Topsail Island, Jacksonville
	Wilmington	420	US 117 north/NC 132 north (Gordon Road)	US 117 and NC 132 join eastbound and leave westbound, Exit split into 420A and 420B westbound
Ends. south continue

Wrightsville Beach

I've deleted Wrightsville Beach from the list of major cities twice now, based on these criteria:

1. It is not on AASHTO's list of control cities, so it fails that criteria for inclusion.
2. It is less than 50,000 people in population, so it is not a major city.
3. It is not located on I-40.

This may be a situation like LA, where it should have its own little note after the listing, but I'm not convinced. Does anybody have a stronger argument than "It appears on a pull-through sign" for why it should be listed? —C.Fred (talk) 16:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Where are you getting these criterea from? No, Wrightsville Beach not on the AASHTO list, but neither is Hickory or Chapel Hill and neither of them, even Statesville or Benson have a population over 50,000.

The AASHTO list are as follows for I-40: Barstow, Needles, Kingman, Flagstaff, Gallup, Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Tucumcari, Amarillo, Oklahoma City, Fort Smith, Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Asheville, Statesville, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Durham, Raleigh, Benson, Wilmington.

The official control cities, identified by AASHTO, are listed in this article in bold, but the ones that are unofficial are in regular text. So how do we know which ones are unofficial? We look at the road signs and see their actual use. "Hickory" is used as a control city for I-40 at the I-26 interchange in Asheville, for instance, and it, in a way, makes sense. Since the junction is in Asheville, the "Asheville" control city name wouldn't make sense to use. The same is true for the Wrightsville Beach addition. Since the I-140/I-40 junction is in Wilmington, using "Wilmington" as a control city is confusing to apply, so the nearest other city, Wrightsville Beach, was chosen. Judging by where Wrightsville Beach is in relation to I-40, this choice is just weird in my opinion, but it's a control city nonetheless. Most control city references are "usually found at highway junctions to show where the intersecting road goes..." That's where the "Wrightsville Beach" name was found, so if it looks like a control city and behaves like a control city, I say it is a control city, unofficial, but still a control city. Main sign I'm basing this on, A sign that features it, but is really confusing, This one is on I-40, but so is Carolina Beach (Not going to debate that one). If you think it's too minor to note, then fine, we don't have to put it. It's silly to argue something like this much further. So, in a nutshell, I disagree with your argument, but we don't have to put it up there. A third editor can share what he/she thinks if he/she wants. Oh and to explain my actions (for whoever wants to know): I did put the Wrightsville Beach entry on the Interstate 40 article to begin with, but it was reverted so I put it on this "in NC" article since it's more localized, hoping it would be more accepted. --Triadian 18:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hickory MSA is over 300,000; Chapel Hill's estimated 2004 population is 52,000 and change. However, both are on the route of I-40. Since I-40 doesn't enter Wrightsville Beach, how about a note similar to the LA note on the I-40 main article?

Note: Wrightsville Beach is used as a{n unofficial} control city at{/near} the intersection with I-140 in Wilmington, even though the highway does not enter the city of Wrighstville Beach.

That presents the info without implying that the highway enters Wrightsville Beach, it's consistent with the main article, and it appropriately drills into state-level detail for the state-specific article. Does that work by you? —C.Fred (talk) 04:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Someone once recently put on the Interstate 77 article the control city of Charleston, South Carolina. This is most likely because for the 5 miles south of South Carolina State Highway 277 in Columbia, South Carolina (its last control city) to its terminus with Interstate 26, I-77 shows Charleston as its control city because it is out of cities.[1] It's still a good two or three hours from Charleston. Things get hairy near the end of Interstates. I-140 intersects I-40 about four miles from its terminus. This is quite a predicament though. I like CFred's idea (from I-40 with LA). But that is also a good few hundred miles, not four or five. I would actually prefer to see LA in the list with a little symbol like † or something to the note at the bottom...I don't know, it's complicated. But that works for the time being. --MPD ^{T / C} 04:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with something like that if you'd want to put it. It's just an interesting fact and I doubt anyone searching Wikipedia for I-40 in North Carolina would care too much unless they were searching for freaky Interstate signage. Yea, it does get confusing at Interstate ends, and in all reality, it's the state DOT's that get the final say. Heck, one of the signs on I-40's last mile stretch lists Carolina Beach as a control city, but it's only found on one solitary sign and is not used as a way to show where I-40 is going in all reality, and is showing the routing of NC 132, which continues 1 mile ahead. Plus, it's the third city listed, so it's not worth mentioning. --Triadian 06:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

This [2] sign in particular is just interesting. The "Wrightsville Beach" control city applies to I-40 because US 17 and I-140 go away from the beach. What's odd is that US 17 Business would take you closer to Wrightsville Beach than I-40 would. So essentially, if you were traveling down US 17 south and saw the Wrightsville Beach control city sign and followed the route it wanted you to take, you would be sent west away from the beach, then back east. Since the US 17 bypass and I-40 are high-speed freeways though, it actually might be a little quicker to take that way. [3] I just thought that was strange. --Triadian 06:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Stub

Several parts of this article show it as a "stub" - yet it's full-length article. Shoudl the stub designator be removed? Jpp42 12:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

New stretch of I-40

I-40 has a new stretch around Greensboro that opened up this past week. It added about 4.15 miles to the total distance of I-40 in NC. Wendover is still Exit 214, however, the next exit is Groometown road and I cannot remember the exit number at the moment, then the I-40 / I-85 BUS-85 29 interchange is next. I will get this info soon.

One thing to note. Sometime by the end of spring, the NCDOT will have to re-milemark the rest of the interstate starting around mile marker 259 in Orange county where I-40/I-85 split again. All exit numbers beginning with 261 will have to be renumbered, with the majority of exit numbers going up by 4 with the additional strech of road in Guilford county. Just a heads up for those on this project. --Pparazorback (talk) 03:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure about this (i.e. source)? Groomtown Road/I-85 S is 218 (A and B most likely, they're the same ramp off I-40, however), and BUS 85/US 29 N is 219. I saw something in a paper somewhere (Greensboro News and Record) that said that NCDoT wasn't going to renumber/mark the rest of I-40 because it's only 4 miles and, to paraphrase, it "doesn't really matter" in the end and would cost a lot of time and money. That may have changed however. Reference 3 at Greensboro Urban Loop is a map of the loop with exits and numbers. --MPD ^{T / C} 18:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

As for the exit number for Groometown on the new stretch, I will confirm that exit number next time I drive down that stretch, which I might do tomorrow. Also to note, that there will eventually be a High Point Rd exit but that is an entirely separate project since they plan on rerouting High point road between Groometown and just before the Adams Farm shopping Center. As for the commentary about not renumbering, I never saw the article that they won't renumber but that might be possible that they might not do it. They should renumber it for accuracy. Now, when I-85 was rerouted, they did not change anything, however the reroute only ended up adding less than a quarter mile to the entire route. I guess we will see. --Pparazorback (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

218 is correct for Groometown, numbered from I-85's mile markers. --Pparazorback (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Several State Troopers have died in the Haywood Co. section?

Needs reference.. sounds unlikely to me. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The reference is the citation just before that part of the paragraph. You only need one citation for many facts in a paragraph. But the sentence wasn't entirely correct. The article, published 19 November 2003, states that two state troopers had been killed by speeding trucks while conducting traffic stops along the stretch in the 18 months prior to the article. You're correct in that it's not "several". According to this article published a few weeks ago the total number is four state trooper deaths in 23 years. The first was shot in '86, then came the 2001 and 2003 accident deaths, then the latest shooting in June. Take what you will from it, I just edited the sentence to reflect the current citation. --MPD ^{T / C} 20:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Great follow up. Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

"Major" cities

If Benson (aka BFE) is included on the "Major Cities" list, then the name of the list should be changed to "Major or Control cities"...or something with "control". A North Carolinian reading the current list would probably wonder how Benson (pop. 3374) could be considered a city, let alone a major city. APK is ready for the tourists to leave 02:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a standard. Go to WT:USRD and bring it up there as it's a WikiProject standard. --MPD ^{T / C} 03:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Though there was a caption on the list noting that entries in bold are AASHTO control cities. I'm not sure what happened to it. —C.Fred (talk) 03:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Come to think of it, that's not the Major Cities template at all. --MPD ^{T / C} 05:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh god. I'd rather the page contain incorrect information than try to convince some project's members to change their way of thinking (that goes for all projects, mine included). APK is ready for the tourists to leave 04:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

APK, I agree with you 100%. To be fair, I hadn't looked at the article, just saw the edit summaries pop up on my watchlist. Its current state should explain it all. C.Fred- that other template was added by the anon user; before, it was a section and had a control cities note. I'm trying out a new template on a few articles that addresses some concerns I've encountered with major/control cities sometimes (such as "Canada") (not to mention the old template isn't actually a template and has to be coded into the article). --MPD ^{T / C} 05:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Page Construction

I will be working on Interstate 40 for the next week. If there is anything that looks unfinished, don't delete it, I had to go do something and will be back to it later. The main area I will be working on is the route description and first section.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncchild (talk • contribs) 18:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Redesigning History

@Washuotaku:, I wanted to get your opinion on a restructuring of the Interstate's history to go more in order based on time. Seems like we have some of that then it goes into a bunch of subcategories and it may be confusing to readers.--Ncchild (talk) 02:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Writing eloquently and incorporating existing works isn't my strong suit, so I'm cool if you can reformat it in a better organization. Just remember to incorporate the important history and don't delete anything unless it is fluff. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Alright cool. I wasn't planning on deleting any details unless of course it's not needed.--Ncchild (talk) 22:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway

I noticed the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway is not listed as one of the names for I-40. Prior to his terms in the state senate, Warren was the director of driver's licenses from 1970-1974. It looks like the name was added in 2005. I assume the people who maintain this page are more familiar with what the database is saying here, or would know how to pull up the complete entry: [4] (entry is on page 8). Also mentioned in this obituary: [5]. The sign on eastbound I-40 comes just before mile marker 337 in Johnston County.

Screenshot from a dashcam showing the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway sign just before mile marker 337

I might have dashcam footage showing the sign on the westbound lanes also (if it hasn't recorded over yet), but I would assume somewhere in some database is a listing of the exact stretch of I-40 that is the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway. --jqubed (Talk | Contributions) 00:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for alerting us and feel free to make any additional constructive edits. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Cleveland Road Interchange

I wanted to put this into the article, but wasn't sure if there was consensus already. With the I-40 widening in southern Wake/Johnston County, NCDOT is going to create a new interchange at Cleveland Road. This interchange is going to be connected with the current NC 42 interchange, so my best guess is it will be Exit 312 A/B. Of course, I think we can add it with no exit number, as that isn't confirmed in the conceptual drawings on the NCDOT website. --Ncchild (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

If a new interchange is going to be built, and is confirmed with sources, then it should be included in the Future/History and Exit list. Anything we do not know, like exit numbers, should be left blank until a source can be referenced. Always avoid making assumptions and only report what is currently available. --WashuOtaku (talk) 17:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)