Talk:International Seamen's Union

Note on disestablishment

Terrific article! I would argue, however, that the ISU ceased to exist in 1937. Sort of like how many Knights of Labor unions merged to form the United Mine Workers, what remained of the disbanded ISU became the SIU. So I changed the "2001 establishment" to "1937 disestablishment." The 2001 "establishment" is either a typo, or refers to NMU's merger with SIU (with doesn't have anything to do with ISU). - Tim1965 04:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the cleanup, Tim! You're exactly right with the "2001" thing -- I lifted the categories from the NMU article and failed to change that one. Cheers. Haus42 15:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Unions & the end of shanghai'ing sailors

I'm amazed that neither this article -- nor any of the related labor articles -- discuss the role of Seamen's Unions in the abolition of shanghaiing. -- llywrch 16:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• So, can i take it that you're not, um, impressed with the article? Seriously, though, good point. There's some material at Shanghaiing that should be integrated specifically into this article. Haus42 17:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

To respond in the spirit I think you're writing, I won't be nominating this article for FAC today. This article demonstrates a problem shown by too many of our articles about groups or institutions: we omit any account of what they have accomplished. And the abolition of that nefarious practice is an important one for the union movement, perhaps more important than the 40-hour week. (As for the article about shanghaiing, writing as the person who started it, that article also could use more information.) -- llywrch 18:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I didn't make the spirit I was writing clear: the first sentence was meant to be humorous, using a play on two senses of the "to impress," roughly 1) to shanghai, and 2) "to produce a positive response upon." As to why there's nothing in there about it, I can't put my finger on exactly what put an end to the practice, though I think it was the Seamen's Act of 1915. Cheers. Haus42 18:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I knew that you were joking; it appears that my humorous response fell flat. Sorry if I inadvertently insulted you. -- llywrch 23:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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