Talk:Immigrant health in Australia
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Major revamp necessary
editThis article is full of inaccuracies, out-of-date information, it lacks coherence in places and I think contravenes NPOV. I'm not sure what the right template is, but I think that it needs a warning to readers at the top. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- You may not be aware that template messages are not intended to warn readers about an article. The best way to improve an article is to identify specifically what you think are the worst of the problems. Changing or updating the article is as simple as finding reliable sources. Most articles are not improved by using a template but rather the improvement comes about in an iterative process, you change a bit, others might disagree & modify it etc or they might agree & change other bits. Find bruce (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Merge proposal
editOn second thoughts, the lack of purpose, direction and usefulness of this page leads me to think that any useful and relevant information can be inclued in the Immigration to Australia andImmigration detention in Australia pages. There's already a lot of overlap in these areas. (And daily traffic mostly varies between 3 and 8 per day here.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- This article was 30kbytes long. If it pass GNG and non-OR, then leave it as standalone wiki article, if it is not, may be go Afd. For split and distribute content, Immigration to Australia was 55kbytes long, not that good to add even more content to that article. Matthew hk (talk) 09:36, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Oppose neither immigration (225,941 in 2015-16) nor immigration of refugees (24,162 in 2015-16) are synonymous with detention (around 2,500 as at 30 June 2016). There are specific issues related to the health of (1) non-refugee immigrants (better on arrival due to selection criteria, main issues are language & cultural barriers, but also aged care) (2) refugees in the community (previous trauma, but also whether they have access to medicare or other health services) and (3) people in immigration detention (particularly mental health issues associated with detention). Given the number of reliable sources already quoted in the article as well as other government and non-government studies eg [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] to look at the health of Australian residents born overseas I am confident the topic meets general notability guidelines, but am happy to discuss should deletion be proposed. Yes there are plenty of issues with the current content, but that does not mean that the topic should be dismissed as not useful or relevant: see WP:CONTN. Find bruce (talk) 02:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Migrant health is longer term concept than immigration, and immigrant detention centre persons. There are two subsets of detention, irregular arrivals and those who arrived previously with permission being detained following other events, the first subset more complex longer term impacts on their health. There plenty of information to unpack and likely to be significant divergence for each. Gnangarra 03:00, 20 June 2019 (UTC)