Talk:Hot Press

Bias/ NPOV

This article is currently an advertisement for Hotpress from begining to end. It deserves deletion, although it would probably fail given the subject's notablilty. Pathlessdesert 23:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree but don't delete it. I found it a few days ago and was amazed myself at the condition it was in. Believe it or not it was worse than this. I'm attempting to sort out the mess but it may take some time. I'm fascinated by how it has gone unnoticed until now. Candlewicke 05:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

It's certainly in breach of NPOV (the article claims Hot Press discovered U2, but provides no backup, for example and other sections use "compelling" in relation to an interview) and has incredible amounts of irrelevant trivia (e.g. section 2006-2008 contains a lot of detail on covers of different issues). Probably not a candidate for deletion, but it needs a lot of work. Autarch (talk) 18:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

This article is a absolute joke, obviously writen by people attached to the magazine. Because people care so little about Hot Press, no one has bothered to correct the self-agrandising. Hey, Nick! No one's listening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.165.183.96 (talk) 03:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The Regular Features section has descriptions that sound suspiciously like descriptions from a magazine (I don't read it, so I'm judging by the tone). That and the covers section are the least informative sections. Autarch (talk) 21:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I acted boldly and excised those sections completely. Autarch (talk) 21:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions for more improvements

• The material about the price per copy has little value - it's not useful to a random WP reader and will be a nightmare to keep relevant and current, since international prices are constantly being altered by distribution and handling costs, taxes, exchange rates, etc. Let's cut it.
• The Music section is just a gushing vomit of name-dropping. This stuff should be put into a table, and merged with the Interviews section. Although it's still worthless as a reference piece unless citations of when the first interviews were published are added to the table.
• The intro mentions political coverage and anti-estalishment stance (however that might be defined), but the rest of the article is focused only on music. Why is there no list of political stories of value? Can we not tabulate some investigative reports that are perhaps at least as significant as a Kylie Minogue interview??? JXM 05:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• Just in relation to the prices; they're on the cover of the magazine hence why it's included here. The political stories is a good idea. 2yellowcards 10:19 12 October 2006 (IST)

• JXM is correct about those improvements. Prices being listed on the cover isn't a valid reason for inclusion on Wikipedia - they're coming off. In fact, listing the prices may be against Wikipedia policy regarding articles about products because an article is meant to be about the content and cultural impact, not irrelevant details like cover price. The only real reason for listing the prices is to promote this magazine on Wikipedia, which is obviously why the article was started originally. The "Interviews" section still reads like an advert.

I've also removed the blatant external link spam for Amazon that definitely doesn't belong on WIkipedia.172.141.193.135 01:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The cruft about covers needs to be trimmed way back or cut completely. Autarch (talk) 18:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD

Why is this not on Articles for Deletion? I ask because it's a dictionary definition, and those belong on Wiktionary. Furthermore, it appears to be a definition of a regionalism. As a term, "hot press" is used for a great many things besides the room in an Irish house where clothes are dried. It is used, in fact, as a term of distinction between dry cleaning, a cold press, and a hot press for ironing. I'm just surprised that this hasn't been nominated for deletion and deliberated. Utgard Loki 16:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Huh? It's an article about an Irish music magazine. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 16:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I suspect some movement has taken place. My comment therefore does not apply. ("Never mind," as they say.) Utgard Loki 16:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I see what's happened, if you click on the talk page of the Hot press article, you are incorrectly redirected here. I'll try and fix it. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 16:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Katy French

I dont think this deserves a whole subsection ,does it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cm619 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably not; the trouble arises out of her neither being a musician nor a politician which is what the magazine mainly deals with. --➨♀♂Candlewicke _S^T _# :) 17:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Some references require subscription to verify.

I think that's a no-no, isn't it?----occono (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

The Sunday Times

• "Interview: Daire O'Brien: Hey man, Hot Press is still with it after all these years". --candle•wicke 02:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Intricate detail

Some of the sentences in this article are merely lists of acts that have been interviewed. Given that the magazine had been published for nearly 40 years, this can only be a tiny fraction of the acts interviewed and could be trimmed. Autarch (talk) 18:49, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I went ahead and excised three paragraphs that were little more than run-on sentences listing acts. Once done, the section had little more than one sentence, so I removed that ant the title. Autarch (talk) 18:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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