Talk:History of Bombay under Portuguese rule (1534–1661)/GA1

GA Review

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Starting review.Pyrotec (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

On Hold

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My preferred way of working on a WP:GAN is to do an initial review to see whether an article should be quick failed and then, usually, do an initial review (leaving the WP:lead until last) followed up by a more detailed review. However in this case I'm going to put the article On Hold directly as I consider it to have a flaw that needs to be addressed before the review can continue.

This article has very much the makings of a WP:GA, as the article appears to be adequately referenced and well illustrated, however I think the article does not provide an adequate description of the History of Bombay to readers unfamiliar with Bombay.

The problem starts in the WP:lead, with the lead being written (logically) from a present-day perspective, i.e.: "In place of the present day city was an archipelago of seven islands". It is also copied into the Accession of Bombay to the Portuguese section and more confusing information is given, i.e. "In place of the present day city was an archipelago of seven islands: Bombay Island (Bombaim), Parel, Mazagaon, Mahim, Colaba, Worli, and Old Woman's Island (also known as Little Colaba).[1] The Salsette group of islands were located east of Bombay, separated by the Mahim Bay.[2] Important strategic towns located near Bombay were; Bassein (Baçaim) to the north, Thane to the east, and Chaul to the south." No further details are given; and this lack of information is a fatal flaw. Looking at the Seven islands of Bombay article gives a helpful map, i.e.

 
The original islands

and looking at Mumbai gives another map, i.e.

 
The metropolis consists of the Mumbai city, Mumbai suburban district and also the cities of Navi Mumbai and Thane

It becomes fairly obvious that land has been recovered, but this article fails to adequately describe whether any of this land recovery was taking place during the scope of this article; neither does it provide any diagram to clarify the confusion caused by inadequate description of the areas under consideration. Pyrotec (talk) 19:56, 31 May 2009


I agree the word "Bombay" is very very confusing......

Bombay can mean 4 different areas....

  • Regarding the land recovery thing, the land was not recovered during the Portuguese regime. It was recovered during the British regime. It was started by William Hornby in 1784, Governor of Bombay (1771-84). The project was Hornby Vellard. The unification occured during the late 18th and 19th century. KensplanetTC 04:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Your recent edits to the article have considerably clarified the situation, so I will continue with the assessment.Pyrotec (talk) 11:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Peer Review

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Not noticing that the article is actually currently being reviewed for GA, I have conducted a peer review at WP:Peer_review/History_of_Bombay_under_Portuguese_rule_(1534-1661)/archive1, which may provide further pointers. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:53, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Detailed review

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This article is basically at GA-level.

  • Arrival of the Portuguese -
  • This appears to be fully compliant.
  • Accession of the islands to the Portuguese -
  • Reference 17 does not provide adequate verification of the first paragraph. It has a bit about Babur and even less about Humayan; its most about their descendants.
  DonePyrotec (talk) 12:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • Second paragraph appears to be fully compliant.
  • Development of islands -
  • The first paragraph appears to be fully compliant.
  • Second paragraph:
  • final sentence is OK.
  • The final paragraph appears to be fully compliant.
  • End of Portuguese rule -
  • The first paragraph appears to be fully compliant.
  • The final paragraph is unreferenced.
    • Oh, that was WP:OR. Anyway removed it.
  DonePyrotec (talk) 12:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Pyrotec (talk) 19:54, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Summary

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


A wide ranging article.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    B. MoS compliance:  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    Some paragraphs could be improved in respect of citations, but all appear to be acceptable.
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
    A map of the islands would be useful - they already exist (see above).
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  

Congratulations on the article, I'm awarding GA-status.Pyrotec (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thankyou for the quick and great review. It was a short and simple article, with not much contents. KensplanetTC 14:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Reply