Talk:Hino Contessa

Brochures

I couldn't find my old Contessa brochure but I did find some web sites with heaps of scanned brochures:

• http://www.flickriver.com/photos/michielverburgh/sets/72157603827049922/
• http://oldjapanesecar.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bromisc&action=display&thread=1023
• http://storm.oldcarmanualproject.com/hinocontessa.htm
• http://www.automobile-catalog.com/list-hino.html

We can't use the images directly but we can use them as references with links to those web sites.  Stepho  talk  23:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Export to Hawaii (or US)

In the TV show Hawaii Five-O, a Hino Contessa appears, it appears to be an export model as it is LHD converted (Season 2 Episode 13 shows another Contessa with a Hawaii license plate)https://pics.imcdb.org/9656/h5o-213-44.jpg there are no newspapers I could find about Contessas being sold in Hawaii, but they were shown in Hawaii on the TV show Hawaii Five-O. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

That image from the TV show could be due to:

• The Contessa was official sold in Hawaii.
• Somebody did a private or grey market import and licensed it for road use.
• Somebody imported one, did not license it but it was used as a studio prop.

Without further detail we cannot say whether it was officially imported into Hawaii. Wikipedia does not report private/grey market imports, so this photo is not a reliable reference for Wikipedia. See WP:RS.  Stepho  talk  21:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I would rule out the studio prop as I cannot imagine them importing the car just for the backround in handful of episodes, as the car is simply in the backround.

Since the IMCDB episode is a 1965 model, and the episode was filmed in 1969, and Contessa production ended around 1967. I would suggest this example was either officially sold, privately imported, or part of a failed test run by Hino. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 01:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

My mystake * ended in 1969 ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 01:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

On Hemmings, this left hand drive Contessa showed up 3 months ago, I am quite skeptical on this one, on how it has a left hand drive train if the article says it has in on the right. If we could see the speedomator then we could determine if it was privately imported or officially imported by Hino.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/rare-opportunity-to-buy-a-1968-hino-contessa-1300-sedan/ ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 02:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

This example is left hand drive and in MPH, as according to this Twitter post, I am inching closer to saying without a doubt the Contessa was sold in the US

https://x.com/MyronVernis/status/1853989452030390325 ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 02:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

The studio prop idea is a bit far fetched but stranger things have happened. It's just to say that we do not know if it was officially offered for sale in Hawaii.

Both your images have LHD windscreen wipers (the pivot point is more towards the left side of the car, which is the right side of the photo), which means both were probably built as LHD. The article says "100 and 300-series are right-hand drive, while 200 and 400-series are left-hand drive" and that they were sold in Australia, Switzerland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Israel and possibly other countries and that they were raced in the US (the Hemmings reference chat also mentions it being sanctioned for racing in the US). The MPH speedo could have been swapped later on (Australia used MPH in the 1960s, so an Australian Contessa could donate a MPH speedo), or possibly somebody made a new faceplate for the speedo, so it does not help much. Okinawa in Japan was LHD (see 730 (transport)), so that is another possible source of the vehicle.

Sadly, without a solid reference form a reliable source, we still have nothing to say about it being officially sold in the US or Hawaii in particular.  Stepho  talk  02:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)