Talk:Helen Stephens

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Gender

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The 'meeting Hitler' story is fairly preposterous, but I guess a biographer can write what he likes. I wonder though if it was intended to offset doubts about Helen Stephen's gender identity at the same Games, which more notoriously also featured Stella Walsh:
"The winner was American Helen Stephens, whose features were so masculine and voice so deep that one British female athlete openly queried how she was even allowed into the women's section of the Olympic village" - Mail.
Looking at the Britannica photograph (Stephens is on the left, Walsh on the right) you can perhaps understand why.
Hakluyt bean (talk) 04:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hitler did greet many of the victorious athletes and Stevens was one of them: Hence the commentary when he wouldn't acknowledge Owens.

Confusion of Stephens and Walsh

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When saying "A post-mortem on Stephens' body in 1980 revealed that she had "ambiguous genitalia.", cited from a time.com-article, it seems the author of that article confused Stella Walsh, who died in 1980, with Stephens, who does not appear to be dead in 1980, since she isn't dead bevor 1994. A post-mortem in 1980 would sure have been quite traumatic to poor Ms. Stephens. So, evidence for Stephens possible intersexuality has to be gained elsewhere.

Hitler

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I changed, 'Stephens, who was closeted, refused' to 'Stephens refused'. The former implies that, if she hadn't been gay, she would have accepted Hitler's offer. First, there is nothing in her quoted words to suggest that she wasn't repulsed by Hitler and second, there is no evidence given that she was gay. Leschnei (talk) 22:05, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

I read the Herald article again and it does state that she was a lesbian, but I still don't think that we can assume that that was her reason for refusing Hitler. Leschnei (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
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