Talk:Great Britain

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2023

60% smaller is a meaningless statement, it's either 60% of the size or 40% of the size. 78.146.141.153 (talk) 23:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done - while '60% smaller' can only possibly mean 40% of the size, I have altered the wording for clarity. Tollens (talk) 01:38, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Since when does any country on the planet define itself in reference to the percentage it is bigger or smaller than another? That sentence comes across as a pointless willy measuring exercise at best. 109.78.145.59 (talk) 19:53, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

These aren't countries, they're islands. It's fairly common to compare sizes of geographical entities. WaggersTALK 10:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Shouldnt be "40 percent" instead of "40 per cent" 2601:285:8000:1C8:2009:7344:160A:B17F (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

No, "per cent" is correct. Put it down to WP:ENGVAR if you like - "percent" might be ok too but there's no reason to change it. 50% means 50 items for every 100 items, "100" is simply changed to "cent" so it becomes "50 per cent"; it doesn't suddenly become a single word. WaggersTALK 10:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2023

Change the population count to 65,034,142 as that is the new data taken from the England and Wales Census 2021 and Scotland’s 2022 Census. Isitreallyharry (talk) 18:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 21:52, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

"England Island" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect England Island has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 18 § England Island until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 22:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2024

There is a mistake in the article. 84.245.80.134 (talk) 05:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 05:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Is there a competition to shove the now archaic term Brytish isles into every single article in Wikipedia?

Wikipedia really needs to take a good look at the use of archaic geopolitical language being pushed by a small number of its editors 31.187.2.87 (talk) 11:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Island vs Term including other islands

@Bbx118, is edit-warring in a map and descriptions that defines Great Britain as all the islands of England, Scotland and Wales. So Anglesey, Orkney, Wight and the island of Great Britain are part of "Great Britain".

Therefore should this article change from primarily "island" to the "political term/archipelago" that covers all of England, Scotland and Wales? Or use both, so "is either" and use a switcher. We can't have a map of not (just) the island then state the lead with "island".

However of their sources cited, Britannica states it as just an "island", while the other two are more likely using it as the political term, especially concerning the olympics where geographic regions don't compete. But these from the same publishers do specify[1][2][3] it as an island (and other islands aren't part of another island) so surely it is primarily an island. However the BBC does class the off-shore as part of GB[4] repeating OS's statement. So is GB not primarily an "island"? Unless Great Britain (island) and Great Britain (term)?

Also "Britain" cannot "commonly" refer to two things right? If it is more commonly referred to one then it is less commonly used for the other? Is "Britain" both commonly used for the UK and the England-Scotland-Wales thing? Would it be better to remove "Britain" from both? DankJae 20:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@User:DankJae, you are trying to revert to information which is NOT IN the citation. I've corrected this, and provided two citation for the correction information.

Please provide a relevant citation, otherwise you are committing vandalism by trying to keep it.

Brittanica states it is the island "and it's islands" (please read the Brittanica citation I provided) complete with an image showing exactly what Great Britain is. What you've written is wrong. The British Ordinance Survey states the same. Both sources have been provided.

Politically, Great Britain is apart of the UK. It is a geographical term. The United Kingdom is the political entity.

Also, "Britain" has been discussed. Various sources (including the BBC and the UK Government) have referred to both the island and the UK as "Britain". There are many instances of a word being used informally for two different things, there are literal wikipedia articles on this. Bbx118 (talk) 20:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bbx118, I am merely restoring the status quo in absence of consensus, it is not vandalism. I have linked to some cites specifying island above.

Raised the issue here as a result whether this article should be moved from about the "island" to the "political term". "Great Britain" refers to two different things in either geographic or political contexts, you're prioritising the political definition over its island definition which this article has long focused on. So should we consider "island" the secondary definition?

Britannica specifies as "island", islands don't contain islands. But accept many sources are vague and mixed. Hence the need for other opinions, or this article should remove demote "island".

Once again, yes Britain is used for three meanings, "UK", England-Scotland-Wales or the island, just saying describing "Britain" to commonly refer to the island and then at United Kingdom to refer "commonly" to it, means one is less common then the other? DankJae 20:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

You're reverting to a source which does not state what it claims to. You've been advised of this. Repeatedly trying to re-add it is not constructive. Every source currently listed states the island and it's islands, and none state is it the main island only.

As I wrote, the political entity is the United Kingdom. Great Britain is a geographic term.

As I wrote, Brittanica states Great Britain is the island and it's offshore islands, and provides an image showing this. The British Ordinance Survey (which I cited) also states this.

There's no reason to change either the UK article or the GB article as both explain why "Britain" is used. Bbx118 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

If Great Britain is not (primarily) just an island, then the lead should not state "is an island" but as you state "is a geographic term". DankJae 21:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)