Talk:Glacier Creek

Geography is all wrong

This is perhaps a result of how many recycled names their are in Alaska. The article says Glacier Creek flows into Turnagin Arm near Sunrise, Alaska, but that Crow Creek near Girdwood flows into it. These places are on opposite sides of the Arm so that's not possible. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:23, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

After checking with GNIS, I think this is an error or a misreading of the cited sources, there are two "Glacier Creeks" on the Kenai, and none near Girdwood, and I can't find any "Crow Creek" on the Peninsula. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

I think I've got a bite on it. GNIS didn't turn up a Glacier Creek in Girdwood, but NOAA has a hydrologic station there [1]. It looks like this si the big creek that flows right throught he middle of town and parallels the Alyeska Highway, so it's weird that GNIS isn't aware of it. It seems that in the early days there was a lot of repetition of feature names (the whole reason I became aware of this was from following a link that was actually referencing yet another Glacier Creek on the other side of the Kenai). Basically, there's the one Glacier Creek on one side of Turagain Arm that flows out near Girdwood, and another Glacier Creek almost directly opposite it, also flowing into Turnagain Arm, near the Hope Highway, and a third one in the wilds of the Kenai National Wildlife Refuge that flows into Tustumena Lake. So, we may need a dab page here and this article will need to be untangled, at present it seems to jumble the descriptions of two of them together. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:34, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Glad you'll be able to resolve the confusions! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:15, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hopefully. I'm going to convert this to a dab page and try to sort out which bits are about which creek so they can be moved to specific articles. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:04, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I've taken my best shot at it, it was kind of tricky without access to those offline sources but I think it's done. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

nope

Upon looking deeper, it seems there is no stream by this name on the other side of Turniagain Arm. The confusion seems to stem form one of the sources, which misidentified Girdwood as being on the Kenai Peninsula. The age of the sources also seems to have added to this,as they keep referencing how far things are from Sunrise. During the gold rush days, Sunrise was a bustling little town and therefore an important reference point. It is now basically a ghost town, and the nearest creek to it is Sixmile Creek. There are several other "Glacier Creeks" in Alaska and elsewhere though, so perhaps this should stay as a dab anyway.... Beeblebrox (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2017 (UTC)