Talk:Gerrymandering

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Space & numbers geek in topic malapportionment
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US Senate

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@Darknipples: The disputed text is A striking modern example of malapportionment is the U.S. senate, where states receive equal representation despite widely varying populations. By this logic, the UN General Assembly would seem to be malapportioned. India and Nauru get the same number of votes. I do not understand this sort of complaint. But since you found one RS that uses 'malapportionment', I've left it in (although whether it is relevant here is another matter). Srnec (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I appreciate the discussion. The UN may or may not be considered malapportioned by some standards, but I do not believe it is a complaint or criticism, rather, it is a notable example that seems to have consensus among RS including academia. I'm confused as to why the Guardian source was removed. I checked Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Why do you consider it unreliable or otherwise not worthy of inclusion here? Cheers. DN (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
We already have a better source sufficient for the point. Srnec (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Remedies

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I was surprised that this article doesn't include any discussion of proposals to remedy gerrymandering. I found Gerrymandering in the United States § Remedies, and suggest something similar be added to this article. Daask (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

malapportionment

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The text states "A striking modern example of malapportionment is the U.S. senate, where states receive equal representation despite widely varying populations." While it is true that the people of the U.S.A. are not equally represented in the senate, it was never intended to represent them (the house is for that); Instead, the senate originally represented the state governments directly (2 senators for each state). The senate was shielded from corruption within and gerrymandering of state governments by the 17th amendment, which changed the system so that senators are now elected by the peoples of the individual states (two senators for each state's people). Recognizing that the senate represents the many peoples of the individual states, rather than the collective people of the united states, it is apportioned perfectly.

P.S. Was I supposed to post this under "US Senate" topic? I'm new. Space & numbers geek (talk) 17:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply