Talk:George Bernard Shaw/GA1

GA Reassessment

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Clearly fails GA immediate failure criterion 3: paragraph after paragraph without citations. Some now tagged. More need tagging. Tim riley talk 15:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Very probably IS "under referenced" for GA - but tags will not necessarily of themselves solve the problem and should (here as everywhere) be used with discretion (please!) Tags asking for references on plotline "facts" for instance are pernicious: surely that something "happens" in a play or novel might be assumed to be verifiable from the text of the play (novel, whatever) itself? A plethora of "Grass is green" (or "Paris is the capital of France") references do not necessarily a good article make either - nor is asking for them frightfully constructive: don't ask people to supply references for common sense or patently easily verifiable matter. With those reservations agree with Tim - certainly not saying every citation tag in this article needs deleting (although some do) or that there is necessarily no need for any new ones (strongly suspect there is, although, as always, the better course is to hop in and hunt one up one's self).

But what I am even more concerned about are phrases (sentences, even whole paragraphs) that reek of being lifted straight from (possibly perfectly reliable) sources without acknowledgement. Nothing wrong with reporting others' opinions, but we must in this case name the source and if convenient quote their exact words. Before being considered a GA the article needs someone with the time and resources to do some detective work on this aspect. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:56, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Shaw deserves better than a GA, and there are plans afoot to overhaul the article to FAC standards. What with other continuing projects and the prodigious reading required for GBS, this will probably be in the New Year (unless another editor pre-empts the proposal, naturally). Until then if anyone has the time to do a temporary patch-up, fine. If there is a WP ruling that I have missed to the effect that descriptions of plots are exempt from the requirement for verifiability then by all means delete those tags; as a beginner in WP I was quite lax in this regard, but in recent years I have tried to respect WP:V for plots of plays and operas: citing the page range of a published text or a critic's description is easy enough. Tim riley talk 08:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

New section on GBS and the Irish Literary Revival

Besides informing the ongoing debate about Shaw being Irish or British, readers might well need to know what was the relationship between Shaw and this very notable and influential movement in Irish letters. It illustrates that he was part of an, but not the, Irish literary and dramatic revival.Straw Cat (talk) 15:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

In view of the progress with getting the page to FA standard, this GA review is overtaken by events, and it does not seem worth delisting it as GA. Tim riley talk 16:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC)