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Shippis, Shipis?
editSomeone (IP: 202.91.85.197) keeps adding unreferenced information about a group called Shippis or Shipis. I cannot find any information anywhere else about them. For this reason I am removing all references to them from this article. If, however, this seems unjustified perhaps they could start a new article on the Shippis (with some references, please!) and make links to and from the article on Gaddis? Let's keep this page focussed on its title subject - Gaddis. John Hill (talk) 15:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Requested move 11 August 2020
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. @Usernamekiran: You are welcome to help clear up the incoming links. Number 57 18:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC) Number 57 18:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
– I don't see a primary topic between this ethnic group, the other ethnic group with the same name, their language, and the other (themselves probably more obscure) topics listed on the dab page. I don't have an opinion on whether Gaddis is better than Gaddi people: there was an objection to the first term in a 2009 move, but the form appears to be common, and it's used by the article's sources as well as by the article itself. – Uanfala (talk) 18:14, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support both I was initially mildly opposed to the article title move as the proposed title is plural and the singular form Gaddi is used in the sources; but i noticed the 'Exceptions' section of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals) states that the singular form for an ethnic group should be recast as plural, and that 'people' is omitted from titles. I'm not familiar with the consensus that led to that naming convention, but i don't have any reason yet to doubt its suitability in this case. Zindor (talk) 16:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- There's more elaborate guidelines at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes). "People" is a perfectly acceptable and also commonly used disambiguator, but there's a preference for the plural, whenever it exists and is unambiguous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanfala (talk • contribs) 17:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- ok, thanks for the link. Zindor (talk) 17:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- It should be a good idea to create the disambiguation page for this. People generally searching for Gaddi would require information for both, the people and their language. To avoid missing either of them, this should help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nik9hil (talk • contribs) 06:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- ok, thanks for the link. Zindor (talk) 17:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- note to the closer: in case of this discussion is closed in favour of move, kindly contact me after closing the discussion so that I can use a bot to fix the links automatically, before pages are moved. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 09:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Please don't. We can't assume that all the links will necessarily have been for the tribe. Automated disambiguation of links is only viable for narrowly defined contexts (like
[[Gaddi]] tribe->[[Gaddi tribe]]). And there's no need either: there are less than 40 mainspace links here. – Uanfala (talk) 10:04, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Uanfala: there are 30 links from mainspace, and one from template. I cross-checked all the links, the only problematic link is somewhere, where it is mentioned as a town. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Please don't. We can't assume that all the links will necessarily have been for the tribe. Automated disambiguation of links is only viable for narrowly defined contexts (like
- Support both' William Gaddis seems to get more views than any other article in this group. The stupid Gaddi (name) should be merged to the Gaddi disam page, per normal. Johnbod (talk) 12:41, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not a great fan of short name articles that only list people with the name, but they're somewhere between acceptable and recommended (MOS:DABNAME, WP:APONOTE), so I don't think there's anything to merge here. – Uanfala (talk) 16:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- @Usernamekiran: the s of Gaddis is a plural marker (as in Germans), not part of the name. So you can have sentences like "The Gaddis are a tribe", but not ones like "The Gaddis people" (where a singular is needed). – Uanfala (talk) 19:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Uanfala: too late. But the module can do that, I will shortly post at BRFA, kindly see my upcoming comment there. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)