Talk:G. S. Carter

Help please (copied from Z Special Unit talkpage)

I've made a user page article on Major G. S. Carter here, but have a problem. A lot of internet sources say he was in the Royal Australian Engineers; in his own account he mentions being in the British Army and then Z Special Unit. I'm not sure how to go about interrogating the various military records online to find out about his service. Can anyone help please? A lot of accounts mistakenly say he was an oilfield engineer rather than a surveyor; I wonder if this might have then got conflated into him serving with the RAE? Jasper33 (talk) 16:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I found this at the WW2 Nominal Roll site: [1]. It provides different service numbers to the one quoted on the AWM Honours and Awards entry, which is perplexing, but mentions that his posting on discharge was the "Engineer Training Centre". — AustralianRupert (talk) 03:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The London Gazette entry does not provide any more useful information either, but here it is for you anyway. [2]. — AustralianRupert (talk) 03:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Carter's army personnel file in the National Archives can be found here: [3]. Sometimes you can view then online, however, not all of them are up yet (probably never will be). You can, however, I believe request a copy by pressing the "Request Copy" button. That might help clear things up, if you are willing to go that extra mile. I hope this helps in some way. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 03:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

If the details haven't been digitalised yet, you need to pay the NAA to do this; they charge about $20 for the service. Nick-D (talk) 05:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks chaps! The nominal roll shows his date of discharge as 18 Jan 1945, before his Z Special Unit Service. Is this to do with the secrecy of Z Special Unit, with him taking on another service number for it, I wonder? Jasper33 (talk) 08:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm copying this over to the G. S. Carter talkpage. Jasper33 (talk) 08:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

DSO

The original recommendation for his DSO has been digitised, see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7674537. I'll take a look next week when I'll be able to do it for free. Remind me if I don't update this. David Underdown (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

That's great, David, thank you (and thansk for fixing my infobox booboo - I'll know for next time!). I wonder if the NA record will throw light on his service with the British Army? Cheers Jasper33 (talk) 08:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

It's unlikely, except in a passing mention. Service records for British forces from WWII are presently still only available to next of kin. David Underdown (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Carter's Army records

User:Adamdaley has very kindly paid to have Carter's military service records digitised. These are held at the National Archives of Australia and may be viewed online at [4] (enter Carter's service number QX48608 in the keyword box). Thanks Adam. Jasper33 (talk) 07:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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