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"Why Wikipedia's Fans Shouldn't Gloat". The Atlantic. March 16 2012. Compare, for example, the depth of the Wikipedia entries for Fyodor Dostoevsky (5,542 words, 38 references) and South Park. (12,675 words, 215 references). It's true that the Britannica online academic edition article on Dostoevsky by Professor Gary Saul Morson of Northwestern is slightly shorter than Wikipedia's, but is different in kind. It may have fewer facts but it probes the writer more coherently and deeply. Here is the entire Wikipedia paragraph on Dostoevsky's literary legacy: 'Some, like journalist Otto Friedrich, consider Dostoyevsky to be one of Europe's major novelists, while others like Vladimir Nabokov maintain that from a point of view of enduring art and individual genius, he is a rather mediocre writer who produced wastelands of literary platitudes.'{{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
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The "about this book" link claims the book was published in 1972, which is ludicrous since the works cited includes books published as late as 2005. And, for that matter, the text itself refers to a TV show in 2008. I didn't put a lot of time into this, but enough to show natural evolution. I seized on the phrase "despotic treatment", which is a striking one. That enters our article in 2006 as a major revision, here. We couldn't have copied from a book which mentions a 2008 tv show in 2006. But beyond that, we can see that some of the content that was merely modified is in the book as it was modified: " Dostoevsky below is quoted in describing the dilapidated barracks which, as he put in his own words, "should have been torn down years ago." becomes "Describing the dilapidated barracks which, as he put in his own words, "should have been torn down years ago", he wrote:" Sure enough, that's what the external source says. And speaking of that 2008 tv show, reference was added to our article here. The evidence strongly suggests that we had it first and they took it without attribution. --Moonriddengirl(talk)11:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
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As it's how he would have spelt his name during his day, can the pre-reform spelling of his name, Ѳедоръ Михайловичъ Достоевскій, be included in the article? I'm not sure how to integrate it in the introduction. 2WR1 (talk) 06:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I just found how to format it from a different page, so I'll add it, I've taken it from the Russian Wikipedia page, if anyone has any comments about this let me know. 2WR1 (talk) 06:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
Okay, sorry, I just found that there is a note at the very bottom of the page about this, linked with a footnote by the name. I feel like the original spelling of his name should be more prominent and displayed in the opening paragraph (see the page Crime and Punishment how this is done for the title of the book). I don't want to mess things up, if anyone has an idea of how to implement this effectively, please go ahead and do it, if you think it would be better not too, please discuss here. 2WR1 (talk) 06:14, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
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There is no need to add the opinions of some left-wing media personalities to the article. If you are quoting, then cite a significant source. Noraskulk (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply