Talk:From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Apokrif in topic Authorship debates

100 Best Books for Children

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I don't know whether this coverage by Anita Silvey is notable. I simply wrote it into the lead section, rather than delete the reference, when I provided the more appropriate ALA.org American Library Association source for the Newbery Medal. --P64 (talk) 01:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Level

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Online Simon & Schuster currently notes

  • Mixed Up Files, ages 8-12, grades 4-6[1]

Is such information commonly included in articles on children's books, either from the publisher or assessed by some outside review? Anyway, here are the data with link. --P64 (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Scholastic interview

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What are your children's names? Have they ever served as character models for any of your books?
Their names are Paul, Laurie, and Ross. They have posed for the illustrations in my books. Laurie was Claudia and Ross was Jamie in From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler.
How important are characters to the story?
Characters are so important to a story that they actually decide where the story is going. When I write, I know my characters. I know how things are going to end and I know some important incidents along the way. I can give an example of this. When I was writing From the Mixed-up Files of Basil E. Frankweiler, I did not know until Claudia was in Mrs. Frankweiler's house that she was going to take a bath in Mrs. Frankweiler's magnificent marble tub. It wasn't until I got her in that room that I knew what she was going to do. It's because at that point in the story, I knew the character Claudia as well as I know my own children.
Is the character of Mrs. Frankweiler based on yourself?
Actually, Mrs. Frankweiler was based on Miss Olga Pratt, who was headmistress of Bartram's School, the school where I taught. The woman who posed as Mrs. Frankweiler was a Miss Anita Brougham. And she lived in the same apartment house as we did, and one day in the elevator I asked if she would pose for me. And she did, and when that book won the Newbery, we had moved away from the apartment house. And a friend of mine who still lived there met Mrs. Brougham in the elevator and asked her how she felt to be famous. And she said, "I am very pleased for Mrs. Konigsburg."
Did you ever hear anything from Miss Pratt in regards to your book's winning the Newbery?
She had never been vain enough to check this sort of thing out! Miss Pratt was not wealthy, but she was a matter-of-fact person. Kind, but firm.

E. L. Konigsburg, Interview Transcript. No date. Scholastic Teachers. scholastic.com.

Those exchanges quoted from the interview concern Mixed-Up Files directly and primarily. --P64 (talk) 02:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Bologna

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The frequent Kincaid expression for nonsense is spelled boloney, not baloney, and Bologna, Italy is a clue that Claudia recalls when it is crucial.--P64 (talk) 23:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Editions

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Formerly we listed ISBN and OCLC from two different later editions. I don't know about the LCC (does it change by edition?). Infobox ISBN and cover artist, and the full Citation, now fit the copy I have used —first edition, 51st printing, I understood from the title leaf, but Open Library gives Library Binding Edition, November 1970, for this ISBN.

At a glance I supposed that our unlabeled cover image is illustrated by a movie still, and is not the original (which we know from the Newbery Medal replica and "Yearling Newbery" banner). OCLC shows the two covers, one using ELK drawing (my source) and one matching our image, for 1970 Library Binding Edition and 1973 Laurel Leaf. http://openlibrary.org/works/OL8124857W/From_the_Mixed-Up_Files_of_Mrs._Basil_E._Frankweiler

Frankly I don't know when ISBN, oclc, LCC, or dewey numbers change with some changes in the book.

Ideally the cover image and ISBN, etc, should fit the first edition.

Anyway, the cover image needs some caption!

Many editions evidently end on page 162. I have provided one formal ref to the edition I have used (Citation at bottom), where page 162 is less than one half page and begins "thing unusual had been discovered lately". I think anyone whose edition matches that description should feel free to add page-numbered references in the same format. --P64 (talk) 01:13, 16 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

1. believed* means believed by me now
  • 440951825 — believed* first library binding edition (20th printing?), same ed. for which Open Library gives 1970 issue date (maybe not 1st printing as library ed.?) — believed* original cover design except Newbery seal
  • 14359879 — first ed. by paperback imprint Aladdin Books 1986 — believed* original cover art by ELKonigsburg, new cover design
I replaced the latter with the former at {{infobox book}} OCLC and added the warning about WorldCat presentation of library records at External links.
2. I inserted this comment a couple years ago and now move it here.
  • !-- one edition Harvard catalog Lamont FARNSWORTH PS3561.O459 F76 2002x -->
I still don't know the meaning of variant LC Classifications such as this 'PS3561.O459 F76 2002x' and 'PZ7.K8352 Fr' at {infobox book} LC Class, nor can I infer a mistake by the Harvard catalog. Maybe you can.
--P64 (talk) 20:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Metropolitan Museum bargain statue 1965

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"A $225 Sculpture May Be a Master's Worth $500,000", Milton Esterow, Oct 26, pp. 1,42

Abstract at nytimes.com (pay to view entire article)

"Museum Shows $225 'Bargain': Metropolitan to Test Bust To Determine Its Sculptor", Grace Glueck, Oct 27, p. 49. Abstract

"Art Expert Seeks to Date 'Bargain': Will Compare Metropolitan Statue and One in Italy", Oct 29, p. 50. Abstract

NYTimes.com makes some historical available free of charge and searchable by google. I don't hit these three, except their titles in the footNote to this article. --P64 (talk) 19:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Authorship debates

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Why is this in the category "authorship debates"? Perhaps I have missed it, but I don't see anything about an authorship debate in the article.Bill (talk) 18:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Based on wikiblame (linked from the history tab) it was added by @Apokrif in this edit (along with Cultural depictions of Michelangelo, which I understand). I'm not aware of any authorship debate about this book either. --Pokechu22 (talk) 18:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
"The sculptor unknown but suspected to be". Apokrif (talk) 23:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply