Talk:Freetown Christiania

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Largoplazo in topic List of killings

Is this community still anarchist/autonomous from the rest of denmark?

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Doing a quick read through of the Further developments section, and well generally the rest of the article, it's quite clear that after the State used the police to invade the community around 2004-2005 (In 2004, the Danish government passed a law abolishing the collective and treating its 900 members as individuals. Beginning in the summer of 2005, a series of protests were staged by Christiania members. During the same time, Danish police made frequent sweeps of the area.) in force to try and dismantle the marijuana economy that the community has lost it's economic autonomy to the State of Denmark. After private property was re-introduced it's obvious it's hey days were behind it. I propose we mark time of death for the community as July 2013 when the legislative proposal L 179 was passed by parliament removing it's political autonomy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.14.62 (talk) 13:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Looking for reliable sources on films and media that have covered Christiania, if anyone has any. czar 03:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

List of killings

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Someone has added a "List of killings" section to the article. This seems off to me, not something generally included in articles about places, and offered without any foundation as to why it makes sense for a general article about Freetown Christiania to have one. Neither Denmark nor Copenhagen, after all, has a list of killings, nor is there a Vesterbro#List of bank robberies. What do you all think about having this section here? Largoplazo (talk) 10:46, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Largoplazo, the list of killings is included, because it is related to the drug trade happening on Christiania. I am a Danish citizen and we take killings very seriously, because we have so few of them related to illegal drug trade. If you are not Danish, then I can understand. What happened yesterday and all the other murders are tragic and should not be buried away. 82.147.226.240 (talk) 13:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
You've chosen not to address my remarks. Do Danes not take killings in Denmark or Copenhagen overall seriously? Or bank robberies in Vesterbro? How about other cities and countries and communities? My reasoning was in the context of general practice and the appearance that the information you provided seemed possibly too specific for the scope of an article about the community in general.
See WP:NOTNEWS. If something tragic happened yesterday, it isn't occasion to use Wikipedia as a vehicle to express one's horror. I'm horrified by killings in Washington, D. C., the city next to which I live and in which I have lived, but a new killing shouldn't trigger an addition to that article or even to Crime in Washington, D.C. a section listing all the individual killings that have ever happened.
As I said, you didn't even provide any foundation for why such a listing would appear there. You certainly could add a "Crime" section, moving the existing section "2016 shooting and end of Pusher Street stalls" into that, and give a more general treatment of the crime problem in the community.
Speaking of the 2016 incident, is it up to date? I'm asking because I visited the community when I was in Copenhagen in 2018 and the tour took us through stalls on Pusher Street (unless they'd moved it so that it was actually not on Pusher Street, but that's the name I'm remebering) out of which drugs were being sold, so it seems that the impression the article currently gives that the stalls no longer exist is incorrect. If there is a reliable source observing that the stalls returned after their removal, the information in the article should be updated. Largoplazo (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Now I see that the re-emergence of the stalls is covered in the Pusher Street subsection of the Economy section. Perhaps that outcome should be summarized in the subsection of the History section as well, rather than leave the wrong impression. Largoplazo (talk) 16:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply