Talk:Finn the Human and Jake the Dog

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Seabuckthorn in topic GA Review

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 01:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Nominator: Gen. Quon (Talk)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn  01:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

1: Well-written

Check for WP:LEAD:  

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    • Check for Provide an accessible overview (MOS:INTRO):     Done
      • Major Point 1: Plot "The series follows the adventures of Finn ... with his family and his dog, Jake on a farm." (not a concise summary of the Plot section, few important points like events after the "wish" and the "crown" are not in the lead, while "Finn is then warped ... Jake on a farm" is not in the body.)
      • Major Point 2: Production "The episode was written and ... and Cloris Leachman as Farmworld Marceline." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 3: Reception ""Finn the Human" was watched by 3.435 million viewers and received largely positive critical acclaims, with many critics writing that the episode was a creative challenge." (not a concise summary of the Reception section)
    • Check for Relative emphasis:     Done
      • Major Point 1: Plot "The series follows the adventures of Finn ... with his family and his dog, Jake on a farm." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 2: Production "The episode was written and ... and Cloris Leachman as Farmworld Marceline." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 3: Reception ""Finn the Human" was watched by 3.435 million viewers and received largely positive critical acclaims, with many critics writing that the episode was a creative challenge." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
    • Check for Opening paragraph (MOS:BEGIN):     Done
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        • ""Finn the Human" is the fifth season premiere of the American animated television series Adventure Time.
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      • Check for Abbreviations and synonyms (MOS:BOLDSYN):   None
      • Check for Foreign language (MOS:FORLANG):   None
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      • Check for Contextual links (MOS:CONTEXTLINK):     Done
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      • Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading. Paragraphs should be short enough to be readable, but long enough to develop an idea. (WP:BETTER)
      • Merge Background and Events sections to fix the short paragraph "In the fourth season finale, Finn and Jake are tricked by the Lich—disguised as the hero Billy—into opening a portal to the multiverse by using the Enchiridion. After the Lich passes through, Finn and Jake give chase, and a mysterious new reality is created.".
      • Fix ""Finn the Human" first aired on Cartoon Network ... "Jake the Dog". the episode ... at the time of the airing." in the Reception section. There is also a 1a issue: the should be The.
      • Fix "After being pulled into the portal, ... into the reality created by his wish." in the Events section.
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  3. Check for Offensive material (WP:F***):   None

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None

2: Verifiable with no original research

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    • Is it contentious?:   No
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Check for inline citations WP:MINREF:     Done

  1. Check for Direct quotations:     Done
    • "never even ever existed." (no inline citation)
    • "mutagenic bomb" (no inline citation)
    • "really fit in the Adventure Time world".[6] (Check on source 6, successful, "With Finn and the viewer experiencing an alternate timeline, I thought it would be cool to design some characters that didn’t really fit in the Adventure Time world.")
    • "a little bit jarring" ... [6] (Check on source 6, successful, "The tone is I think, a little bit jarring, so I was worried that viewers would be put off by it")
    • "loosely inspired by the Japanese manga series Fist of the North Star.[6] (no end quote after inspired) (Check on source 6, successful, "heir look was loosely inspired by the Fist of the North Star. Pretty much, everything I do is loosely inspired by FOTNS.")
    • "Finn going insane" ... [6] (Check on source 6, successful, "And Finn going insane was I think all Rebecca. ")
    • "a dense première that evokes nearly all aspects of this series."[4] (Check on source 4, successful, "The Dog” is more focused on humor and relationships, and the result is a dense première that evokes nearly all aspects of this series.")
    • "an action-packed, mythology-heavy chapter" ... [4] (Check on source 4, successful, "“Finn The Human” is an action-packed, mythology-heavy chapter, ...")
    • "nice change of pace".[4] (Check on source 4, successful, "This two-parter is a nice change of pace, but it’s nice to be back in the rainbow-colored world of Ooo.")
    • "irreverent and narratively engaging".[8] (Check on source 8, successful, "... more clearly represents the progress of the medium: Irreverent and narratively engaging, ...")
    • "the ideal testament to animation's glorious pliability in an commercial arena otherwise defined by restrictions."[8] (Check on source 8, successful, "... it's the ideal testament to animation's glorious pliability in an commercial arena otherwise defined by restrictions.")
    • "sad subtext" ... [8] (Check on source 8, successful, "... toys with an incredibly sad subtext: The world has been destroyed in something called The Great Mushroom War.")
    • "deny the bad vibes their surrounding world invites" ... [8] (Check on source 8, successful, "Through friendship and playtime, the characters seemingly deny the bad vibes their surrounding world invites.")
    • "cheery songs and vibrant artwork" were some of the series strongest points.[8] (Check on source 8, successful, "The cheery songs and vibrant artwork remain sincere while challenging the backdrop at the same time.")
    • "interesting creative challenge".[8] (Check on source 8, successful, " provided an interesting creative challenge for Ward and his team: a prolonged running time of half an hour, which basically amounted to a double episode.")
  2. Check for Likely to be challenged:     Done
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3: Broad in its coverage

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4: Neutral

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4. Fair representation without bias:     Done

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  12. Check for Fringe theories and pseudoscience (WP:PSCI):   None
  13. Check for Religion (WP:RNPOV):   None

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:   Yes

6: Images   Done (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license)

Images:  
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6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:     Done

  1. Check for copyright tags (WP:TAGS):     Done
    • Image 1 (Ming-Na 4.jpg): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
    • Image 2 (Kumail Nanjiani by Gage Skidmore.jpg): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use. Hence this image complies with The license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works.
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    • Image 1 (Ming-Na 4.jpg): Free.
    • Image 2 (Kumail Nanjiani by Gage Skidmore.jpg): Free.
  3. Check for non-free content (WP:NFC):   None
  4. Check for valid fair use rationales (WP:FUR):   NA

6: Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:     Done

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    • Image 1 (Ming-Na 4.jpg): Relevant.
    • Image 2 (Kumail Nanjiani by Gage Skidmore.jpg): Relevant.
  2. Check for Images for the lead (WP:LEADIMAGE):   None
  3. Check for suitable captions (WP:CAPTION):     Done
    • Caption: "The episode guest starred Kumail Nanjiani (left) and Ming-Na Wen (right) among others." succinct and informative


As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

  • The lead does not provide an accessible overview. Major Points like the Plot and the Reception are not the concise summaries of their respective sections.
  • The lead does not give relative emphasis to the Reception as is given in the body.
  • Short paragraphs generally do not warrant their own subheading. Merge Background and Events sections into the Plot.
  • Paragraphs should be long enough to develop an idea. Fix other short paragraphs.
  • No inline citations for the direct quotations: "never even ever existed." and "mutagenic bomb".
  • No end quote "loosely inspired by the Japanese manga series. It should be after inspired as per source 6.

This article is a very promising GA nominee. I'm delighted to see your work here. I'm putting the article on hold. All the best! --Seabuckthorn  05:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for performing a very thorough review of this article. How do these changes look?--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Good. --Seabuckthorn  02:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn  02:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply