Talk:Fanny White/Archive 1

HST218 Comments

I would appreciate it if members of Fall 2011 HST218 US Women's History Salem State University would comment on my first wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSUProfessor (talk • contribs) 17:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Great job. Very interesting woman. I wish there was a picture of Fanny though. Mlm957 (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)Mlm957Mlm957 (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Couldn't navigate the copyright on the picture of Fanny, so there is an external link to it at the bottom of the article. Janeweaving (talk) 22:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I really like this article, its amazing to find women that took a stand and actually did something most women of the time would be scared to do, she did what she wanted and didnt care what others thought.. Good luck!! Vdrgnfly (talk) 16:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Before reading about this woman I had no idea who she was or what she was known for, but after reading your article I'm surprised there hadn't been an entry on her before. You did an amazing job with filling us in on the facts, the good and bad and it really went well together. Good Job ! (Lee.castro (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC))

Fanny really made the best of a bad situation! Very well-written and well-documented. Blizzardbaby (talk) 02:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

• great article. I really enjoy reading about these women who had limited rights and had the "guts" to do what they did. It reminds me of Isabel Gonzalez, who stood up against the authorities and fought for her believes. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Community Comments

This article was written as an assigned research project for a college-level US Women's History class. Professor instructed class to solicit feedback about ways to improve articles. Thank you for your time! Janeweaving (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

It looks great to me. I removed "significant other" as this is a slang term - of the 1990s I suppose. Most people will understand what a "man" is. I'm not sure about the phrase "lasted four years" - from the commercial point of view this might be valid, but one might imagine the majority of women in this milieu would have been on the look-out for what we now call "exit strategies". I have changed some the section titles - we don't want to call her "notorious" with an editorial voice, for example. Similarly we have no opinion about the timeliness of her death - in the sense that "untimely" implies some kind of injustice or misfortune, even calling it early I hesitate over, but can be considered factual. We don't use "smart quotes" on WP, but that is trivia. The referencing in particular looks good, (I haven't followed the refs) and the article held my attention, and is well linked to other articles, both important points. Rich Farmbrough, 15:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC).

Thank you for your comments. According to William Sanger's 1850's study as analyzed in his History of Prostitution, the majority of prostitutes only worked parttime, as a second job; and the statistic of four years also comes from his study. Since prostitution paid far better than most of the menial jobs available to lower class women of the day, it may not be accurate to assume that the majority were looking for an exit strategy. More likely they were phased out as they aged and became undesirable to the johns. "Notorious" was tongue-in-cheek since that was how Fanny White was often described in her day. Janeweaving (talk) 02:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Note, the Daniel Sickles article claims Teresa was 15 when they married. Rich Farmbrough, 15:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC).

No. The article says that she was 15 when they became reacquainted in 1851. When they married in Sept. of 1852, Teresa was "just sixteen" according W.A. Swanberg's biography of Sickles, Sickles the Incredible. Janeweaving (talk) 02:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

My apologies. The Sickles article does indeed say she was 15; but the Teresa Bagioli Sickles article makes the finer distinction. Apparently different people wrote the articles. Swanberg still says she was 16. Janeweaving (talk) 16:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I updated the Daniel Sickles article to reflect this. The insight into working patterns of prostitutes in nineteenth century NY is interesting, possibly explaining the otherwise apparently untenable figures I have seen for the number of prostitutes in other cities in that era. Rich Farmbrough, 14:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC).

Notes

Split it into 4 columns. Template:Reflist will tell you more if you want to fiddle with it. Sklifnir (talk) 13:59, 18 December 2011 (UTC)