Talk:Daniela Di Toro

Open Wins

Can some one who knows wheelchair tennis take a look at the various article sources and determine what she actually won? There is conflicting source information as to what years and what events she won, as opposed to coming in second of third. "Daniela Di Toro". Victorian Institute of Sport. 2010. Retrieved 6 October 2011. says she won the Australian Open in 2003 but other sources in the articles say she came in second, and give a different listing of events she won. My head is spinning trying to determine which events she won. The only consistent point regarding her wins is the ones she had at the Paralympic Games. --LauraHale (talk) 11:21, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about the 2003 and 2004 events, but I removed the 2007 and 2008 wins that were incorrectly attributed to her. The source in the article put "1st" next to her name, but it did not mean that she won the events (Esther Vergeer won them), but that she lost in the 1st round. That source only goes back to 2007. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 08:39, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

And now I found the source for 2002 to 2004 (from the australian open website, so as reliable as it gets): she came in second these years. (RU=runner-up). --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi! As you can see I have updated the wiki page to include a table of grand slam, olympic, and NEC masters events. These have been sourced directly from the ITF Wheelchair tennis website and thus their reliabilty is strong. As you can see they conflict with sources from the VIS and news articles. I assume this is because these sources have referenced amongst themselves - the exception being the Australian Open, which was accurate (albiet limited). She won 10 Australian Open titles in singles and 2 in doubles. This was during a time when the Australian Open was not a 'super series' (grand slam equivilant) event - but is however considered a slam by the media, history forgiving. The Australian Open itself was not made a Super Series event until 2002. It was not until 2009 that the ITF created the 'grand slam' tier of events. Instead from 2002-2008 was an ITF masters event called the Wheelchair Classic 8's (at the Australian Open). The actual super series Australian Open event was held in Febuary and at a different venue. The Wheelchair Classic 8's was incorrectly attributed as being a grand slam event during those years due to media pressure (see: Esther Vergeer) and confusion because from 2009 it was made the official Grand Slam tier event. The super series themselves are also no longer considered slams due to the creation of the Grand Slam tier and the old Australian Open event (where Di Toro won her 10 titles) no longer exists. For these very confusing reasons from 2002 onwards only wheelchair events held at the four grand slams are considered as slams - despite the fact this wasn't the case until 2009. It is actually because of the Esther Vergeer article that I did not include the British Open or the super series events from 2002-2008 in Di Toro's results in order to maintain uniformity with popular opinion. Pierricbross (talk) 07:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Suggested Improvements

I would recommend moving the Personal life section to the beginning of the article and then re-work that section. For example, her place of residence is stated in the middle of the list of people she admires. Also, the sentence about her enjoying Japanese food, seems totally unnecessary.

I don't want to step on any toes, so I came here first. I will check back for any objections before making any changes.Van Vidrine (talk) 14:55, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Go for it. :) --LauraHale (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Source

The Pinnacle, The Victorian Institute of Sport Newsletter. Issue no. 11. June 1992. VIS Olympians. Page 3. Lists Brian McNicholl, Kelly Barnes, Sandy Blythe, Julie Barr, Amanda Carter, Paula Coghlan, Darren Collins, Anne Currie, Brad Evans, Stuart Ewin, John Lindsey, Craig Sayers, Greg Smith, Daniela Di Toro, Michael Walker and Jodi Willis as being scholarship holders that made the 1992 Paralympic Games squad. --LauraHale (talk) 6:24 pm, Today (UTC+11)

She may have been selected to go but she did not compete. http://beta.itftennis.com/wheelchair/tournaments/tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1050000453 Pierricbross (talk) 13:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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