Talk:Cultural depictions of dinosaurs

Latest comment: 8 months ago by PrimalMustelid in topic GA Reassessment
Former good articleCultural depictions of dinosaurs was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 8, 2007Articles for deletionKept
November 5, 2008Good article nomineeListed
April 10, 2024Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

First sentence

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The first sentence reads, "By human standards, dinosaurs were creatures of fantastic appearance and often enormous size." There are a large number of dinosaurs that weren't large by human standards, this should be clarified.--Blackmagicfish 05:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Clarified. How about that? Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 15:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dinosaur renaissance

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Why does Dinosaur renaissance redirect here? -- it was shift in scientific thought as much as popular culture, and the article doesn't even cover it. John.Conway 12:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Caves and Volcanoes

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I'm curious how an association came to exist between dinosaurs, caves, and volcanoes in trite cinema. I suppose that The Lost World and Brute Force had something to do with this, but does it go back even further? I understand that early (though forced) confusions in the timeline would put cavemen and dinosaurs at each other's throats, but how did volcanoes sneak in? 204.186.60.80 17:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'd have to check the exact artist, but it was an influential muralist of the mid 20th century who really cemented the "volcano=dinosaur times" association. J. Spencer 20:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
It was Rudolph Zallinger, from the post-WWII era, with his fondness for cinder cone volcanoes. J. Spencer 04:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Little Children

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Shouldn't there be something in the article about how virtually every little kid is obssessed with dinosaurs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.142.89 (talk) 02:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

There already is, see the "Appeal" subsection at the bottom of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.130.109 (talk) 23:31, 27 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Ad microsoft dinosaur.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Misconceptions

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I think it's not quite fair to list, for example, dinosaurs as 'monsters who do nothing but fight each other' as a misconception when nobody has any idea what dinosaur behavior is/was. A lot of animals spend all their time fighting... Tasmanian devils, for one. It's certainly a cliché, but hardly a mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

GA?

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You know, I think this could be a good article. Any thoughts? J. Spencer (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

The references need some reformatting, and there are some statements that need clarification, but I think we could nominate this in a few days when we do some tidying up. --NickPenguin(contribs) 03:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good. where does it need to be adjusted? J. Spencer (talk) 16:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
All the references need to use the appropriate Citation template. There's only a handful that don't, but it needs to be done before it can get nominated. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
I fixed the web references. There are a few places where I had referenced an article or page in a book, and the book had already received a full citation treatment, so I only used part of the information instead of repeating everything again. This was to keep page size down. Would you prefer if I expanded those too? J. Spencer (talk) 01:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
WP:CITET templates are expressly not required. From CITET: "The use of Citation templates is not required by WP:CITE and is neither encouraged nor discouraged by any other Wikipedia citation guidelines. They may be used at the discretion of individual editors, subject to agreement with the other editors on the article." Firsfron of Ronchester 13:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
I dunno, the last GA nomination I worked on, the citations turned out to be the deal clincher. Better to have it done now than later when there's only a one week review. --NickPenguin(contribs) 11:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
If people are failing GANs because of the use or non-use of optional templates, that's something that should be brought up at WT:GAN. Firsfron of Ronchester 14:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Your mother was a dinosaur!

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Shouldn't mockings of relatives bieng dinosaurs be listed? Somewhere? 24.56.20.41 (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

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Shouldn't the kids television show Power Rangers be qualified under '1980s to the present', as the original series used dinosaurs as their source for 'zords'?[1]

--74.72.86.55 (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)p4poetic--74.72.86.55 (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

The article deals with the subject in a broad way, not as a list. Is there some particular aspect that makes the Power Rangers dinosaurs stand out above the crowd of dinosaurs in kids' entertainment? J. Spencer (talk) 23:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply


Dinosaurs in Fiction

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How about spawning a separate article to cover this topic. There are many works of fiction on dinosaurs (movies, novels, etc), and it would be a good idea to cover it separately. 94.6.243.138 (talk) 23:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Category merge discussion

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GA Reassessment

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Result: Delisting, a week has passed and no clear interest in fixing the major issues of this article. PrimalMustelid (talk) 01:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The GA status of this article is very old, dating all the way back to 2008. As a result, it's not up to standards in a couple of ways. For one, there's a glaring lot of uncited paragraphs, which fails criteria 2 of the Wikipedia:GACR criteria. Another is that there is clearly much more that could be written about the impacts of dinosaurs on culture and vice versa, as the ~169,000 results on "culture" plus "dinosaurs" on Google Scholar demonstrate. This article needs to be improved drastically to meet the GA criteria again. PrimalMustelid (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think this article has the same problem as the parent dinosaur article - everything from 1980 onward is given such a brief and rushed treatment that it does the subject matter zero justice. But, more fundamentally, where should and shouldn't this article overlap with paleoart? It's really many of the same key players and events with both. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 18:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree, it proves to be especially important to cover cultural depictions of dinosaurs in the 1980s onward considering that they've gained increased relevance and interest amongst public audiences, and it looks as if such high interest is here to stay for the time being. I think this article can stand if it extensively discusses dinosaurs in literature (writing, fictional media, public engagement with science, etc.), but this article currently does that very poorly which proves highly problematic. PrimalMustelid (talk) 20:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Under the current state of the article, if it receives no interest for GAR by other editors by the 10th of April and there is no opposition, I will mark it off as a Delist for GA for major unaddressed issues of the article. PrimalMustelid (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.